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  • Hidden Pool?

    A friend of mine pointed out some time ago that he thought I was getting matched with different people than he was (this was actually quite some time ago). Today, I read about something called 'Hidden Pool'. If such a pool exists, could I be informed as to whether or not I've been placed there? I looked up my community rating in the developer console and it was like 6200 which would be about a D- if I were graded; I don't think I'm that toxic.

    player_behavior_seq_num_last_report: 560
    player_behavior_score_last_report: 6258


    I'm sorry, but I think this system might be significantly flawed. People are keen on lashing out in this game if the team doesn't perform well, and I suspect that includes their ability to report. Not in a sense that they are justified in doing so, but In that people look for scape goats.

    ps.
    Why does valve use this website as opposed to a more traditional system that most companies would use?

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    There is not such thing as the hidden pool. You are overestimating Valve. When they implemented the unranked and the ranked matchmaking they made it as simple as possible to just fire and forget about it, so they can dedicate the 95% human effort in the battle passes and arcanas.

    As someone who is usually reported for flaming, based on my experience, the quality of the games highly depends on the time and day you play dota, and of course the server. Sometimes I got matched with wonderful people, sometimes with Kanye West or Charles Manson doppelgangers. Just try a different time and day or a different server.

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    • #3
      Hidden pool

      There is a hidden pool:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comme...g_hidden_pool/

      Read what dev.dota2 admin Fletcher said in this post: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...30#post1082330

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      • #4
        Originally posted by iamchampion View Post
        There is a hidden pool:

        https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comme...g_hidden_pool/

        Read what dev.dota2 admin Fletcher said in this post: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...30#post1082330
        Thanks for the link. The dev is not specific about what exactly is "repeatedly engage in activities significantly harmful to the community", so my guess is hackers, dodgers and quitters, in other words, clearly harmful actions that can always be verified automatically by Steam or Dota 2. I really don't think it includes rage feeders, flamers (aka toxic players), ability abusers, in other words, anything that has to do with the Dota 2 report system, because it extremely prone to false positives.

        Considering how abstract the dev statement is, it can also mean that no one has ever been in the hidden pool yet, because no one has engaged in significantly harmful activities yet (like hacking Valve servers), according to Valve

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pent1um View Post
          Thanks for the link. The dev is not specific about what exactly is "repeatedly engage in activities significantly harmful to the community", so my guess is hackers, dodgers and quitters, in other words, clearly harmful actions that can always be verified automatically by Steam or Dota 2. I really don't think it includes rage feeders, flamers (aka toxic players), ability abusers, in other words, anything that has to do with the Dota 2 report system, because it extremely prone to false positives.

          Considering how abstract the dev statement is, it can also mean that no one has ever been in the hidden pool yet, because no one has engaged in significantly harmful activities yet (like hacking Valve servers), according to Valve
          On the other hand, with "significantly harmful to the community" he might also mean players that get a lot of reports from their peers. Do you know exactly what he meant or you're just speculating like everybody else?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BlinkingRiki182 View Post
            On the other hand, with "significantly harmful to the community" he might also mean players that get a lot of reports from their peers. Do you know exactly what he meant or you're just speculating like everybody else?
            Of course just speculating, but as someone whose report rate is higher than the 99% of players, and who is randomly matched with sick and wonderful people, I can attest that such hidden pool, if it exists, must be for hackers, dodgers and quitters only.

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