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  • Ban for jungle? Really?

    Two months ago I complained about low priority due to the choice of the jungle. https://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=286446
    Since then I've been in low priority many times, but I kept playing according to my best strategy. With her help, I got a lot of ranks and got 1-1,5 thousand points.
    But now, instead of another low priority, I was simply banned for six months.

    Is it generally normal that I get a ban for the style of the game?


    Namely because of the style of the game on my account, there are so many reports. I do not know how you are, but on the Russian server the system of complaints is abused. In addition, junglers there are accused of almost every defeat.

    When I created the last topic - I played with a win rate of 70% and still the reports were enough to hit with a low priority. Even in case of victories, reports were sent to me simply to harm the choice of the jungle.
    After raising the ranks, it became more difficult to play, the win rate was reduced to 60%, which was still an excellent indicator. And anyway on me sent a collective report as soon as they could, usually with a loss, but, as I said, sometimes even with victories with better scores I get report.



    In my last match, I did not even chat in the chat, people were arguing with each other, which eventually led to the fact that they SPECIFALLY surrendered and stopped defending the towers. In the end, I was indignant at them, that they surrendered, they remembered me and, with the words "YOU FOREST, THIS WILL MEET," have sent me at least two reports.
    https://ru.dotabuff.com/matches/3828018110
    At the same time of those people one broke things, and the other whole match swore at the players. In the end, those people play quietly on. Do I get a ban?

    It is worth to clarify that EVEN in the Russian forum, where they hate junglers, began to doubt their convictions. And the debate began, is it normal at all that they gave the ban for the style of the game, although the style is one that they did not like.
    https://dota2.ru/forum/threads/schas...lgoda.1175681/

    https://ru.dotabuff.com/players/80861773
    ID 80861773
    7000+ Matches

    P.s. I do not exclude that in some games he played poorly. BUT I do not really deserve a ban. I'm absolutely sure that not playing on the jungler - I would not get a ban.
    Last edited by Alex_1203; 04-12-2018, 04:28 PM.

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    In one game, you were feeding:


    In another game, it looks like you claimed to be a booster, picked wrong hero for mid, lost and got reported:






    Objectively, I don't think it's enough in the last week to deserve a ban (even though I feel like all feeders should get banned for 6 month every time they feed), so you might have been reported a lot, because people don't like your pick and don't see how it works. Maybe you should talk to them, and tell them.

    Anyway, I would like to know why you are banned, too. The ban seems unfair judging by your stats and your chat. Maybe try Steam Support?
    Last edited by VqaK7S8efTN; 04-12-2018, 09:34 PM.
    Threads I think are useful to read:



    Just another day on EU servers.

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    • #3
      это ты тот даун, который тему с лесной брудой создавал на д2ру?

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      • #4
        ахах, да. Он самый. Земля пухом, сам бы тебя зарепортил.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DetroitMT View Post
          это ты тот даун, который тему с лесной брудой создавал на д2ру?
          Why are you being an asshole? If his strategy works, it's valid and good. It just needs to be communicated to the team.
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          • #6
            этот алекс уже заебал всех на д2ру. Каждый раз ловлю лулзы с тебя, с пониманием мира как у ребенка.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DetroitMT View Post
              этот алекс уже заебал всех на д2ру. Каждый раз ловлю лулзы с тебя, с пониманием мира как у ребенка.
              Oh, ad hominem attacks. No wonder you are banned.
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              Just another day on EU servers.

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              • #8
                Я ебу, ты нейро-сеть чтоли, какую же хуйню ты высираешь.

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                • #9
                  https://www.dotabuff.com/players/808...verview&page=7
                  Так тебя забанили, наверно за эту херню шо ты абуизшь. Тут были чуваки с такими же бот играми и тоже про бан жаловались.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VqaK7S8efTN View Post
                    In one game, you were feeding:

                    In another game, it looks like you claimed to be a booster, picked wrong hero for mid, lost and got reported:

                    Objectively, I don't think it's enough in the last week to deserve a ban (even though I feel like all feeders should get banned for 6 month every time they feed), so you might have been reported a lot, because people don't like your pick and don't see how it works. Maybe you should talk to them, and tell them.

                    Anyway, I would like to know why you are banned, too. The ban seems unfair judging by your stats and your chat. Maybe try Steam Support?
                    one or two matches from hundreds to thousands. with the same success you can find and abandoned games, where I have disconnected the Internet. The fact is that all other complaints were for the choice of the forester. back in February I created a theme where there was a screen of succession of wins in the jungler and low priority.

                    It is a matter of talking with people - they do not listen. I can politely ask - they will not listen. I can viciously show the numbers of winrate - they will not listen. I've probably tried all the options that I thought up. In the end, I just decided that at the beginning I should give a couple of messages and ignore the rest of the hatred as there are forces.
                    In another game, it looks like you claimed to be a booster, picked wrong hero for mid, lost and got reported:
                    I did not call myself a booster, although I clarified that I can play on the hero himself. There, even before the start, these two players showed their hatred towards me.


                    I will specify that brood it was perfectly suited against the four heroes of the enemy, and if I'm not mistaken, it was taken last. Just behind the enemies was the tenth peak and there was taken a shaker, which I could not beat.

                    Anyway, I would like to know why you are banned, too. The ban seems unfair judging by your stats and your chat. Maybe try Steam Support?
                    Steam support did not give a clear answer, and indeed the answer. First, I just listed the list of reasons "why I could get" a ban. And then they wrote that they do not do this at all and do not have any additional information.
                    Last edited by Alex_1203; 04-13-2018, 05:51 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BEST_ View Post
                      https://www.dotabuff.com/players/808...verview&page=7
                      Так тебя забанили, наверно за эту херню шо ты абуизшь. Тут были чуваки с такими же бот играми и тоже про бан жаловались.
                      Это чушь.

                      Получил я бан строго после матча, где мне демонстративно отправили жалобу два человека. Жалоба, как уже упоминал, была просто за лесника.

                      А абузил я с теми людьми потому что уже была угроза бана. Потому я два месяца назад создал уже здесь тему. Спустя два месяца мне просто надоело абузить. Всёравно угроза бана возвращалась снова и снова и снова потому что небольшой спам лесников давал репортов пачку.

                      Репорты за лес можно не получать лишь в одном случае - выигрывать 100% матчей. И ДАЖЕ ТОГДА найдутся ру-люди, которые отправят жалобу считая что БЕЗ лесника - матч был бы проще и быстрее и только потому стоит отправить жалобу.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by VqaK7S8efTN View Post
                        Why are you being an asshole?
                        this is the usual behavior of a Russian player. about the same way I behaved on Zeus.
                        The difference is that my behavior was one-time and is extremely rare.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Alex_1203 View Post
                          Это чушь.

                          Получил я бан строго после матча, где мне демонстративно отправили жалобу два человека. Жалоба, как уже упоминал, была просто за лесника.

                          А абузил я с теми людьми потому что уже была угроза бана. Потому я два месяца назад создал уже здесь тему. Спустя два месяца мне просто надоело абузить. Всёравно угроза бана возвращалась снова и снова и снова потому что небольшой спам лесников давал репортов пачку.

                          Репорты за лес можно не получать лишь в одном случае - выигрывать 100% матчей. И ДАЖЕ ТОГДА найдутся ру-люди, которые отправят жалобу считая что БЕЗ лесника - матч был бы проще и быстрее и только потому стоит отправить жалобу.
                          Я прочитал скрины чувака который показал твой чат. Рейдж байбек - это уже не норм игра. Если ты это часто делал, то вот тебе и репорты. А не из-за того шо лесника пикнул, плюс то шо ты абузишь с ботами херню какуето, наверное пытаешься уйти от лп игр, тоесть уклонение от наказаний. Вот тебе и дали бан, не знаю как тебе еще объяснить.
                          Вполне заслуженый бан, так же как и бан чуваку который выше бустит акаунты.
                          Last edited by BEST_; 04-13-2018, 06:55 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Tbh, it doesnt matter how good your strat is. Pub games are controlled by populists who try to copy pro dota players, their hero picks and item choices. If you dare to try something else, you will get reported no matter of your results. Report system is automated and player base know it. On top of that there's no punishment for false reports so this trend will continue. If you want to play jungle i would suggest you to play in 5man premade with players who agree on such condition, because majority of players in pubs don't care about strats different the those in current pro meta. Im not sure if Devs are still active on these forums to re-view your account, but you might want to post on reddit dota 2 maybe. If you get enough upvotes, there's actually a chance that you will get unbanned.
                            Read this if you want to know why so many games is very one sided: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...l=1#post436467

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