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Mute System Broken and Abused - Proof/Video

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  • F2P
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    Originally posted by wachon1992 View Post
    4 6 10 25, as long as its automated there will always be 1 unlucky person who will recieve reports without deserving them and will end up muted.
    Three misfortunes, that's possible. Seven misfortunates, there's an outside chance. But nine misfortunes? I'd like to see that! -- Mr. Burns

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  • wachon1992
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    Originally posted by F2P View Post
    Taking a look with a brand new account it took four reports just to get shut down. But it also took 1 on an old account that was offline after being muted for so long. So I'm guessing they stripped out the time elapsed crap and raised the threshold like they should've... just a matter of figuring out how many games you do have to play now to be immune. Since you can't get reported while being muted you can probably rack that immunity up just by walking off your punishment.
    4 6 10 25, as long as its automated there will always be 1 unlucky person who will recieve reports without deserving them and will end up muted.

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  • F2P
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    Originally posted by wachon1992 View Post
    2 would be perfectly fine if the system wasnt automated but you know...
    Taking a look with a brand new account it took four reports just to get shut down. But it also took 1 on an old account that was offline after being muted for so long. So I'm guessing they stripped out the time elapsed crap and raised the threshold like they should've... just a matter of figuring out how many games you do have to play now to be immune. Since you can't get reported while being muted you can probably rack that immunity up just by walking off your punishment.

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  • wachon1992
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    Originally posted by score View Post
    Jesus, did you really have to make a video? I'm pretty sure Valve already knows, judging by all the 298301092183901382190318 posts and threads everyday
    doesnt look like they know, they changed minor things on the system like 4-5 times in 2 months and couple of weeks.

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  • score
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    Jesus, did you really have to make a video? I'm pretty sure Valve already knows, judging by all the 298301092183901382190318 posts and threads everyday

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  • wachon1992
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    Originally posted by F2P View Post
    That sounds about right. I just started setting up tests again and ran into a snag (also available in topic in sig) ...

    When I was doing this testing the first time around, I had two accounts played that made it all the way to 168h before I let them sit and do nothing. Every single person's account out there (you can find this out by -console "developer 1; dota_game_account_debug") has a timestamp for when they were last muted and that was set to 0 by Valve's reset. When I come back and try to report both of these just once, they get banned AGAIN for 24h.

    This testing is off to a bad start already. lol... volvo I thought it was established 2 is too low, and 1 and done is totally messed up.
    2 would be perfectly fine if the system wasnt automated but you know...

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  • F2P
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    Originally posted by wachon1992 View Post
    my friend played one game, he got muted. LMAO
    That sounds about right. I just started setting up tests again and ran into a snag (also available in topic in sig) ...

    When I was doing this testing the first time around, I had two accounts played that made it all the way to 168h before I let them sit and do nothing. Every single person's account out there (you can find this out by -console "developer 1; dota_game_account_debug") has a timestamp for when they were last muted and that was set to 0 by Valve's reset. When I come back and try to report both of these just once, they get banned AGAIN for 24h.

    This testing is off to a bad start already. lol... volvo I thought it was established 2 is too low, and 1 and done is totally messed up.
    Last edited by F2P; 07-03-2013, 09:53 PM.

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  • wachon1992
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    my friend played one game, he got muted. LMAO

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  • vaultdweller123
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    Originally posted by Shmendrich View Post
    No one, its an automated system that simply adds
    Reports / games-time = Mute

    Meaning: If you are reported X times in X number of games or in X period of time (All of these numbers are unknown, but the number of reports seems to be 2-3) you'll be muted, even if you didnt speak at all in the entire game

    Wanna test it? play with a couple of friends in 2 games, dont speak at ALL (Voice or text) in both games, have them report you in both and enjoy your next mute

    And if possible record it with FRAPS and upload it in this forum
    omg *facepalm

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  • Shmendrich
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    Originally posted by vaultdweller123 View Post
    now im wondering on who is approving the mute?
    No one, its an automated system that simply adds
    Reports / games-time = Mute

    Meaning: If you are reported X times in X number of games or in X period of time (All of these numbers are unknown, but the number of reports seems to be 2-3) you'll be muted, even if you didnt speak at all in the entire game

    Wanna test it? play with a couple of friends in 2 games, dont speak at ALL (Voice or text) in both games, have them report you in both and enjoy your next mute

    And if possible record it with FRAPS and upload it in this forum

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  • vaultdweller123
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    I wonder if the people implemented this have really tried playing the actual game and teamed up to an uncooperative player who doesn't even care, doesn't defend, doesn't push together, doesn't join the team clashes nothing they just farmed all day which always resulted to an absolute defeat. I wonder if they can keep their cool and doesn't get stressed on these kind of people. i was once muted for making some shitty comments. i admit that one and they are right for muting me. btw that was 1 week mute so after that i learned my lesson and never talk shit again, using the chat wheel all the time but after a couple of days i got muted another 1 week ban, sweet. then i try to remember if i made some bad comment at the past then i remember, i did... but i was just calling them "noobs", i did not make any racist comments or "F" word. So calling then "noobs" is rude enough for me to deserve a 1 week ban? now im wondering on who is approving the mute? is it a real person or an automated program? i know the mute system is just an experiment and i tell you right now that this system is killing the game. look for the forums and so many people are leaving dota2 because of this. getting mute is a mental torture. please valve re-think the mute system, it doesn't have to be remove it just needs adjustments

    P.S. im getting really pretty scared right now to even type a single word on the chatbox

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  • vaultdweller123
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    the mute system is a disaster. i thought the system was made to avoid players from quitting the game?(that what the blog says) i think getting muted for a ridiculous amount of time is a good reason enough to quit
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=156999318
    proof:
    http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/di...2399770935061/
    http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2

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  • Shmendrich
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    Everyone knows the system is abusable, and now with dedicated people like you PROVING it with tests and videos in NEW accounts without previous punishments...only shuts up the valve indoctrinates that say "Mute system works fine and isn't abusable because I haven't been muted" is just a plain dumb statement

    Automated systems like this will always be abusable

    Now some important points about this video:

    1° Is it bad to go mid like a zombie without calling, planning lanes, and replying to your team? YES it is, but its definitively NOT communication abuse by ANY means, nor anything that should be reported, this kind of report is an ABUSE of the system, because that OD KNOWS the system is abusable, and abuses it to take revenge.
    2° What if drow was muted? how does she calls "I'm picking drow for mid" or "Please go top its better for our lineup" or anything of the kind? That drow going mid and staying silent like a zombie/russian could have been CAUSED by the mute system
    3° This guy had 3 games in a NEW account, meaning a LOT of people are muted RANDOMLY merely because of bad luck with being reported with no reason or justification

    The only people who say the system isn't abusable, is the people who abuse it the most as revenge, they dont want to lose that.

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  • thaWiseGuy
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    Originally posted by D.E.A. View Post
    Please you need to relax and realize the system is here for us. The benefit will sow much.
    About your sig: Are you serious? Watch my video I posted. Guy did nothing wrong, didn't even speak during that game, gets muted. It happens all the time, because people are assholes.

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  • thaWiseGuy
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxqaV6z-1bI

    Here's SingSing proving it too, the singsing way.

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