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  • #46
    Originally posted by Bleako View Post
    Which means: "we don't send you to LPQ anymore"
    Your reading skills leave much to be desired... Read this again, "will not affect matchmaking,".... They specifically stated this and then said AND(in addition to that) that nobody would go to LPQ from this.
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    Mute system is just another attack on freedom of speech. CENSORSHIP IN THE PUREST FORM.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by NoFreedomofSpeechSaysValv View Post
      Your reading skills leave much to be desired... Read this again, "will not affect matchmaking,".... They specifically stated this and then said AND(in addition to that) that nobody would go to LPQ from this.
      You're reading it word-for-word. The entire thing means that getting the mute ban itself does not come with a direct MMR drop and still lets you play with the same people you would normally be playing with without the mute penalty... but the behavior itself does have an indirect effect on your rating as I explained previously.
      Last edited by Bleako; 07-05-2013, 02:00 PM.

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      • #48
        nope

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Bleako View Post
          You're reading it word-for-word. The entire thing means that getting the mute ban itself does not come with a direct MMR drop and still lets you play with the same people you would normally play without the mute ban... but the behavior itself does have an indirect effect on your rating as I explained previously.
          They said IT WILL NOT AFFECT MATCHMAKING(at all). They did not say "Well you'll still get matched up with faggots who feed."
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          Mute system is just another attack on freedom of speech. CENSORSHIP IN THE PUREST FORM.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by NoFreedomofSpeechSaysValv View Post
            They said IT WILL NOT AFFECT MATCHMAKING(at all). They did not say "Well you'll still get matched up with faggots who feed."
            You're reading it word-for-word. You need to look at the entire paragraph to understand the meaning. If you quote only a few words in a paragraph, out of context, it can be misinterpreted. Writers of sensationalist articles use that trick to catch people's attention.

            If you're matched with "faggots who feed", then either the matchmaking is broken or you're at their skill level. Regardless, one thing people do in DotA 2 is believe that they are much better than they actually are. Even I am a victim of this, that's just how the game is.

            Another thing: freedom of speech isn't a free-to-say-whatever-you-want-and-get-away-with-it card. The concept itself has its limits. This is exactly why you can get arrested IRL for breaking public peace or for writing a racist article for a newspaper, for instance. I'm not making this up, this limitation is actually mentioned in one of the Human Rights articles.
            Last edited by Bleako; 07-05-2013, 02:14 PM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Bleako View Post
              You're reading it word-for-word. You need to look at the entire paragraph to understand the meaning. If you quote only a few words in a paragraph, out of context, it can be misinterpreted. Writers of sensationalist articles use that trick to catch people's attention.

              TL;DR if you're matched with "faggots who feed", then either the matchmaking is broken or you're at their skill level. Regardless, one thing people do in DotA 2 is believe that they are much better than they actually are. Even I am a victim of this, that's just how the game is.

              Another thing: freedom of speech isn't a free-to-say-whatever-you-want-and-get-away-with-it card. The concept itself has its limits. This is exactly why you can get arrested IRL for breaking public peace or for writing a racist article for a newspaper.
              Did you go and read the paragraph from the link that I provided? No, you didn't so you have no clue what they meant.

              I never said freedom of speech is to be abused but 1 REPORT IN 24 HOURS=INSTANT MUTE IS CENSORSHIP.

              You guys act like saying "OMG NOOB" is just as bad of an offense as writing a racist article or revealing personal and damaging info on someone in public. GROW UP.
              Last edited by NoFreedomofSpeechSaysValv; 07-05-2013, 02:15 PM.
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              Mute system is just another attack on freedom of speech. CENSORSHIP IN THE PUREST FORM.

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              • #52
                If you want to leave dota 2 because you can´t flame and insult players, please leave and no one will miss you.

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                • #53
                  For Bleako: If this truly didn't affect matchmaking then threads like this wouldn't exist.

                  http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/610657-dota-2/66555943
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                  Mute system is just another attack on freedom of speech. CENSORSHIP IN THE PUREST FORM.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by NoFreedomofSpeechSaysValv View Post
                    Did you go and read the paragraph from the link that I provided? No, you didn't so you have no clue what they meant.

                    I never said freedom of speech is to be abused but 1 REPORT IN 24 HOURS=INSTANT MUTE IS CENSORSHIP.

                    You guys act like saying "OMG NOOB" is just as bad of an offense as writing a racist article or revealing personal and damaging info on someone in public. GROW UP.
                    I read and quoted the blog post multiple times before.

                    It's not as bad. It is however a verbal attack whose sole purpose is to piss off the target player. No matter how you look at it, no matter how soft the words are, it's still a bad behavior even in terms of game strategy. Remember that you're supposed to be on your team's side, not on the enemy's... If you tend to verbally attack your own teammates why would they even need to hear you talk?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by NoFreedomofSpeechSaysValv View Post
                      GROW UP.
                      I wish you would.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Bleako View Post
                        I read and quoted the blog post multiple times before.

                        It's not as bad. It is however a verbal attack whose sole purpose is to piss off the target player. No matter how you look at it, no matter how soft the words are, it's still a bad behavior even in terms of game strategy. Remember that you're supposed to be on your team's side, not on the enemy's... If you tend to verbally attack your own teammates why would they even need to hear you talk?
                        I haven't been muted for a long time but I hate this system. It's broken and it needs fixing.

                        But you're still wrong about the matchmaking.
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                        Mute system is just another attack on freedom of speech. CENSORSHIP IN THE PUREST FORM.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by mibuwolf View Post
                          I wish you would.
                          Yet you're probably the same guy who cries when someone says "OMG NOOB" and reports him to get him MUTED.
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                          Mute system is just another attack on freedom of speech. CENSORSHIP IN THE PUREST FORM.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Animations View Post
                            If you want to leave dota 2 because you can´t flame and insult players, please leave and no one will miss you.
                            flamers should be punished. the whole issue with mute system is its muting many ppl who shouldnt be muted due to the fact that its automated, it doesnt check chat logs, it doesnt check the description of the report. to sum up, it doesnt check anything but the report itself, you got a report from X person and the system mutes you, simple as that.

                            also, it was alrdy proven the system is automated by a user from the forum so i really dont understand why all the idiots who defend the mute system as it is now keep defending a flawled system.

                            its like when i try to explain to some of my religious friends religion is all crap.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by NoFreedomofSpeechSaysValv View Post
                              Yet you're probably the same guy who cries when someone says "OMG NOOB" and reports him to get him MUTED.
                              I would report you, yes. There is nothing good that come from "omg noob"; only hostility, etc... Just tell the guy what he did wrong or inquire about his/her actions and be done with it.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by mibuwolf View Post
                                I would report you, yes. There is nothing good that come from "omg noob"; only hostility, etc... Just tell the guy what he did wrong or inquire about his/her actions and be done with it.
                                I'm sure you would get a restraining order in real life if someone insulted you.
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                                Mute system is just another attack on freedom of speech. CENSORSHIP IN THE PUREST FORM.

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