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  • #31
    Oh Pro Craig, the immediate next game:



    I had two players who picked heroes primarily to counter PL, but neither of them ever got off one true sight ult, until someone on my team raged at them to but PL had his diffusal by them. I'd carry dust with me but couldn't do shit solo except controlling the sf, es and disruptor early game. When I asked bh and slardar why they weren't tracking, Slar goes, I don't really know how to play this hero very well. Fine we all have some heroes we aren't great with, but that still wouldn't explain why he and bh, 2 meeles were chasing and tracking axe in the mid game and then eventually kept dying to him. The SF actually thanked my team for being so ridiculously stupid.

    BUT by your logic, I screwed up real bad again didn't I? I'd have had to. There is no other explanation. Please give me some MORE of your pro tips?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Paranoia14 View Post
      Oh Pro Craig, the immediate next game:

      I had two players who picked heroes primarily to counter PL, but neither of them ever got off one true sight ult, until someone on my team raged at them to but PL had his diffusal by them. I'd carry dust with me but couldn't do shit solo except controlling the sf, es and disruptor early game. When I asked bh and slardar why they weren't tracking, Slar goes, I don't really know how to play this hero very well. Fine we all have some heroes we aren't great with, but that still wouldn't explain why he and bh, 2 meeles were chasing and tracking axe in the mid game and then eventually kept dying to him. The SF actually thanked my team for being so ridiculously stupid.

      BUT by your logic, I screwed up real bad again didn't I? I'd have had to. There is no other explanation. Please give me some MORE of your pro tips?
      All your games are in Normal rank. There are 2 other players with the same username as you who have played games recently in High and Very High.

      You shouldn't expect strong teammates or oppoenents at that level. You need to win more against the weak opponents to get better better teammates.
      To avoid LPQ:

      Don't draw attention to yourself
      Don't use voice or chat except for 'ss'
      Mute all at lvl 1
      Only play in parties
      Get alternate accounts
      Limit your usage to one or two games per day per account
      Don't play too well
      Don't play on Sunday or Monday
      Wait until the developers reset LPQ status

      If you're getting matched with trolls or feeders:

      You may have been placed in a hidden pool. There is no known way out of this, apart from moving to a different account.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Craig View Post
        All your games are in Normal rank. There are 2 other players with the same username as you who have played games recently in High and Very High.

        You shouldn't expect strong teammates or oppoenents at that level. You need to win more against the weak opponents to get better better teammates.
        hhahahhaa. So you chose to not fault my item pickups or something else that I did or give me your pro tips???? Shocking, really!! Just btw, there is only one Paranoia and the recent high was mine too, as abaddon, after which I got paired with shit again.

        NEWSFLASH: You can't win when you're paired with idiots. I gave you screenshot proofs and these were just two consecutive games that managed to piss me off enough, where people don't know how heroes/items work. That very fact shows how broken your beloved Valve's crap matchmaking is

        But go on, keep feeding everyone on the forums with your ridiculous logic/tips, hopefully somebody is stupid enough to buy it ^_^

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Paranoia14 View Post
          hhahahhaa. So you chose to not fault my item pickups or something else that I did or give me your pro tips???? Shocking, really!! Just btw, there is only one Paranoia and the recent high was mine too, as abaddon, after which I got paired with shit again.

          NEWSFLASH: You can't win when you're paired with idiots. I gave you screenshot proofs and these were just two consecutive games that managed to piss me off enough, where people don't know how heroes/items work. That very fact shows how broken your beloved Valve's crap matchmaking is

          But go on, keep feeding everyone on the forums with your ridiculous logic/tips, hopefully somebody is stupid enough to buy it ^_^
          Nope. There are at least 3. When you search for "Paranoia", you only find you. The client filters the others out to avoid confusing you. When I search it in the client, I see them all.

          You're hostile to genuine advice. You blame teammates. You blame the game. You blame the company that developed the game.

          Ask yourself this: how can you improve your rank with an attitude like that?

          Why don't you take a break for a few days and see how you feel then?

          If it's still making you unhappy, then it's time to ask yourself why you keep doing this to yourself.
          Last edited by Craig; 07-17-2013, 12:30 PM.
          To avoid LPQ:

          Don't draw attention to yourself
          Don't use voice or chat except for 'ss'
          Mute all at lvl 1
          Only play in parties
          Get alternate accounts
          Limit your usage to one or two games per day per account
          Don't play too well
          Don't play on Sunday or Monday
          Wait until the developers reset LPQ status

          If you're getting matched with trolls or feeders:

          You may have been placed in a hidden pool. There is no known way out of this, apart from moving to a different account.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Craig View Post
            Nope. There are at least 3. When you search for "Paranoia", you only find you. The client filters the others out to avoid confusing you. When I search it in the client, I see them all.

            You're hostile to genuine advice. You blame teammates. You blame the game. You blame the company that developed the game.

            Ask yourself this: how can you improve your rank with an attitude like that?

            Why don't you take a break for a few days and see how you feel then?

            If it's still making you unhappy, then it's time to ask yourself why you keep doing this to yourself.

            Here's what I need to ask Valve: "How can I improve my rank with teammates like that? "

            And the only tried and tested answer to that is as soon as my friends get on, we end up stomping more often than not. The only problem is, not all are free at the same time. What I'm pointing out and what you refuse to be able to see is, how terrible their matchmaking is if you aren't playing as a stack. So in short I/anyone shouldn't play solo.

            I'm not hostile to genuine advice, I'm hostile to senseless advice. A blind fanboy who'll tell me I'm at fault when I show him screenshot proof is definitely not giving genuine advice and of course I'll blame team mates when they have no clue of their heroes. I showed you proof you still seem to try to come up with some ridiculous theory every single time. So Kudos to that.

            And I tried with my alt too, still shows me as the only Paranoia.
            Last edited by Paranoia14; 07-17-2013, 02:42 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Paranoia14 View Post
              hhahahhaa.
              NEWSFLASH: You can't win when you're paired with idiots.
              i win queued with idiots all the time. there hasnt been a single game in over two months without at least one idiot on team. sometimes the idiot is me. sometimes its time to make an idiot stack and play with all idiots or idiots + pubs. still win, no problem. you can win more than you lose with idiots on your team and if you cant then you're lacking a critical part of being even a decent player.

              it doesnt matter how well you do in dota if you cant help your team do better too. its a team game, not a solo rpg.
              18 kills but no wards. why arent you warding when your terrible supports failed to do so? you're not exactly a carry and with that gold you could counterward too. why aren't there defensive wards so you can continue to farm with t2s down? there should be MORE wards on the map in a situation like that, not less. why do you not have dust against a PL in your last free slot?

              why are you not refilling drum? why do you still have a bottle if you have no wards and cant control rune anymore instead of dust/wards/tp/smoke (for easy rosh)/quelling (for counter warding now)? if axe is a problem in coordinated fights, why aren't you aggressive warding his jungle or lane in mid and ganking him relentlessly so hes never in teamfights? why dont you build a HH as a priority item if you feel that your team cant properly shut down enemy right click?

              again, its a team game and if you cant survey your team and know what to do from there then you are really lacking the skills needed to win these kind of games. if i see my CM or whatever feeding i look and see whats wrong. if i see they have no boots but wards i tell them to get boots to stop feeding. Then its down to buying wards FOR them so they can make the money without losing vision. That way they don't feed the enemy semi or hard carry anymore and a major problem is averted. true story, easy win.
              Last edited by Meiun; 07-17-2013, 03:22 PM.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Meiun View Post
                i win queued with idiots all the time. there hasnt been a single game in over two months without at least one idiot on team. sometimes the idiot is me. sometimes its time to make an idiot stack and play with all idiots or idiots + pubs. still win, no problem. you can win more than you lose with idiots on your team and if you cant then you're lacking a critical part of being even a decent player.

                it doesnt matter how well you do in dota if you cant help your team do better too. its a team game, not a solo rpg. 18 kills but no wards. why arent you warding when your terrible supports failed to do so? you're not exactly a carry and with that gold you could counterward too.
                I warded all game, even in the PA game I did. Dust (for invis), wards, I make sure I get them as soon as I get the gold, even if I'm a farm reliant solo mid, I get them early, since it pays off anyway. At the time of the screenshot, I had dropped the wards and requested bounty to place them in the enemy jungle and the river. He then went to their neutrals and decided to go in for a kill on their axe again when he saw him jungling and died. The enemy team had zero detection all game and bounty still fed like a boss. These are times when you can do nothing. I would love to see you win when your team feeds PL very early on and are unwilling to accompany you to gank him, I really would.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Paranoia14 View Post
                  I warded all game, even in the PA game I did. Dust (for invis), wards, I make sure I get them as soon as I get the gold, even if I'm a farm reliant solo mid, I get them early, since it pays off anyway. At the time of the screenshot, I had dropped the wards and requested bounty to place them in the enemy jungle and the river. He then went to their neutrals and decided to go in for a kill on their axe again when he saw him jungling and died. The enemy team had zero detection all game and bounty still fed like a boss. These are times when you can do nothing. I would love to see you win when your team feeds PL very early on and are unwilling to accompany you to gank him, I really would.
                  O.K. Heres extras too

                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/244173556 team fed spec, razor AND naix and we went to late. still won.

                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/194983001 team fed pl early so i made him die for his kills. we went to late and i made him feed instead of get kills and counter-pushed when he pushed. not easy but not too hard either.

                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/243370637 void got really fed and with great difficulty we still won. against kotl, void, tide, witch doctor, and a mirana to let them stealth into that combo. really annoying and i was certainly one of the feeders. certainly not the best at jakiro too, but bad ice path just means i had to get good.

                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/241615943 this PA almost make me cry, but i kept her alive come late game and we won. not just a feeder but really strange items too.

                  sometimes you just need to step up and be the game deciding player instead of the best player in game. good at hero isn't good at game. they aren't the same thing. personally not the best player out there, i drop as low as 50.3% sometimes, but i can at least stay between 50 to 53% and at least get some games in 'high'. i've dropped as low as 44% stacking with people who are much worse players and mostly solo carried myself back to 50% as well.

                  i know my place in a team, i know what i need to do to help others find theirs. i know when trying something is futile and i need to find another way to work with my team. my teams probably hate me because i ask them if they agree with my items before buying if i say anything at all. i don't communicate much in general beyond that and perhaps 'don't flame' or 'if we rage we lose' kind of stuff.

                  Purposefully picked Doom and got part of HH instead of vanguard that game knowing the feed was coming. Diffusal carriers and people who can fast HH are very good if you know feed is coming. Those two items can shut down a fed hero quite effectively. the only game in a long time to be totally hopeless was a game where team wouldnt stop trying to level 1 rosh even after wiping to the other team several times in the first 3 min on rosh.

                  Oh i've some 4v5 wins as well. i win about 10 to 25% of those. It would be hard to find them on dotabuff though since its so rare to even get a 4v5.
                  Last edited by Meiun; 07-17-2013, 03:55 PM.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Meiun View Post
                    O.K. Heres extras too

                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/244173556 team fed spec, razor AND naix and we went to late. still won.

                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/194983001 team fed pl early so i made him die for his kills. we went to late and i made him feed instead of get kills and counterpushed when he pushed. not easy but not too hard either.

                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/243370637 void got really fed and with great difficulty we still won. against kotl, void, tide, witch doctor, and a mirana to let them stealth into that combo. really annoying and i was certainly one of the feeders. certainly not the best at jakiro too, but bad ice path just means i had to get good.
                    Game 1: Your team still had smart item pickups and not dagon rushes and your friend on weaver was seemingly brilliant that game.
                    Game 2: 3/6 PL is not even close to an early fed PL. Yes, he did eventually have good farm but great item choice on Sven. However, check my game and tell me who would have been able to carry my team against a fed PL? A last pick slardar who says he doesn't know how to play his hero?

                    Frankly I can't comment on your games, since all I have at the moment are the final scores but more importantly, nowhere in my posts have I stated that I'm an amazing player but I do know nuking a blademail bloodseeker will kill me or that bounty's ult gives true sight. A weaver I played with asks the team, how did they see me even though I went invis? Bounty track killed him way too often that game. Or that, as a pudge if I ult anyone but the VS who is the only stunner in their team it's a bad idea. These are just 3 out of the many games that left me frustrated. All I ask is to be matched with people who have a similar understanding of the game and nothing else.

                    Additionally, the games you showed me, have atleast 1 or more people you know playing with you. Having someone who can at least think, matters a lot. Pretty much all the games I'm referring to, are when I queued solo as solo MM or regular MM but still solo.

                    PS: I asked for a game where your team was unwilling to gank him. You have to realize the frustration when neither bh nor slardar manages to get the ult off on him even after you dust.

                    Also, ideally bounty and clockwerk would work really well together, but that entire game, the total team track kills were 3.
                    Last edited by Paranoia14; 07-17-2013, 04:04 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Paranoia14 View Post
                      Game 1: Your team still had smart item pickups and not dagon rushes and your friend on weaver was seemingly brilliant that game.
                      Game 2: 3/6 PL is not even close to an early fed PL. Yes, he did eventually have good farm but great item choice on Sven. However, check my game and tell me who would have been able to carry my team against a fed PL? A last pick slardar who says he doesn't know how to play his hero?


                      Additionally, the games you showed me, have atleast 1 or more people you know playing with you. Having someone who can at least think, matters a lot. Pretty much all the games I'm referring to, are when I queued solo as solo MM or regular MM but still solo.

                      PS: I asked for a game where your team was unwilling to gank him. You have to realize the frustration when neither bh nor slardar manages to get the ult off on him even after you dust.
                      that pl was something like 3/0 for all of early with extremely good last hit. thats pretty fed. especially since creep waves are worth more than most heros by a lot. doom game a lot of those items were bought because we proved how effective they are in addition to asking them to buy them. also i cant remember but i think i bought that gem and we had another floating around from their team too.

                      many people i stack with are sub 50% players, some are even as low as 44%. even then some of the better players intentionally buy strange or 'troll' items. actually one of those players often disappears to receive phone calls and completely goes afk for long periods of time. thats fine, i like low priority queue a lot more than regular and we still win. much better players who are much nicer in low priority.

                      also when i hit 44% i played 100 to 200 games soloq to get out without help from any of those people. not only that but i ended up there BECAUSE of the people i stack with. no problem.

                      as for 'good items' check out the PA game i added too. sometimes people will listen to you about what items to get and sometimes they just have to learn. i get people who focus cent or an ulted abba all the time, including some of the people i stack with.

                      Lets put it this way, Rotton is a 42.77% player and sometimes plays with repeated disconnects and earth shattering lag. Thats more of a handicap than a help since it weights stacks heavily toward the highest ranked player. still no problem. Even at his best hes 200 to 300 latency.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Meiun View Post
                        that pl was something like 3/0 for all of early with extremely good last hit. thats pretty fed. especially since creep waves are worth more than most heros by a lot. doom game a lot of those items were bought because we proved how effective they are in addition to asking them to buy them. also i cant remember but i think i bought that gem and we had another floating around from their team too.

                        many people i stack with are sub 50% players, some are even as low as 44%. even then some of the better players intentionally buy strange or 'troll' items. actually one of those players often disappears to receive phone calls and completely goes afk for long periods of time. thats fine, i like low priority queue a lot more than regular and we still win. much better players who are much nicer in low priority.

                        also when i hit 44% i played 100 to 200 games soloq to get out without help from any of those people. not only that but i ended up there BECAUSE of the people i stack with. no problem.

                        as for 'good items' check out the PA game i added too. sometimes people will listen to you about what items to get and sometimes they just have to learn. i get people who focus cent or an ulted abba all the time, including some of the people i stack with.
                        The PL my game was an early 3/0 too, but like I said, when your 'hunter' believes that trying to solo kill the axe is more important, I'm helpless. Most of my friends are low win rate players too but at least they know about heroes. Is that too much to ask for?

                        Oh focusing the tanks and worse so abba, don't even get me started on that. It's infuriating but like I said, it's not about being able to win the match despite having idiots on your team, it's more like why have them in the first place? (if you're not partying with them that is)

                        These aren't casual bad games that all of us have at some point or the other, these are just terribly matched ones. Frankly it would suck for the weaver I was talking about earlier, the guy is new to the game, he's still trying heroes and suddenly he gets into this game where he ends up feeding and gets flamed by other players, I checked his profile, saw he was new so I really had no reason to flame him and just ended it with GG Valve.

                        And honestly, after I've seen how bad matchmaking is, I don't even pay attention to win% anymore when I check people's dotabuff. Because frankly, it means little.

                        Just saw the edited bits, if you check my PA game screenshot, I tried my best to carry the team even helped killing off the fed sniper top. But if you realize, beyond a point, 1v5'ing or eve 2v5'ing them becomes really difficult. And I've won a few 4 v 5's too but that's not the point I'm trying to make here. You see. A balanced matchmaking is all we ask for.

                        The PA game you posted, your friend who was the naix this time, yet again carried it for you guys and for some ridiculously weird reason, the opposition AM decided to not get a BKB.

                        And I would like to make it clear, I'm not saying I'm a victim and always get paired with bad teammates but since I can see precisely what happens on my team, I can write those experiences better. So often I see players on the opposition pull off stuff like that, like a Riki player I faced today, someone on my team randomed a bounty, he then still picked Riki and kept walking into my team despite being tracked. He got flamed by his team on all chat. The whole 'uninstall please' and stuff. So is it fair even for him?
                        Last edited by Paranoia14; 07-17-2013, 04:33 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Paranoia14 View Post
                          The PL my game was an early 3/0 too, but like I said, when your 'hunter' believes that trying to solo kill the axe is more important, I'm helpless. Most of my friends are low win rate players too but at least they know about heroes. Is that too much to ask for?

                          Oh focusing the tanks and worse so abba, don't even get me started on that. It's infuriating but like I said, it's not about being able to win the match despite having idiots on your team, it's more like why have them in the first place (if you're not partying with them that is)?

                          These aren't casual bad games that all of us have at some point or the other, these are just terribly matched ones. Frankly it would suck for the weaver I was talking about earlier, the guy is new to the game, he's still trying heroes and suddenly he gets into this game where he ends up feeding and gets flamed by other players, I checked his profile, saw he was new so I really had no reason to flame him and just ended it with GG Valve.
                          http://dotabuff.com/matches/245016352 the replay for this should still be accessible. not just a 42% player; multiple disconnects and lots of lag. sometimes you just gotta be the big man, so i pick titan. that way the enemy team (because void and sven) is the one who does my setup and i dont need my team as much. same could be said of the jakiro game (their entire team). if my team was going to feed in an aoe cc deathball then i decided to make the enemy feed for it, but i fed out of control too.

                          i don't play 1 role hard carries most of the time simply because if i want my ganker to be good then ill be my teams ganker. clock is a good ganker but doesn't have quite enough power at all phases to essentially take down whoever he wants. he certainly cant take down whoever he wants whenever he wants. on the other hand you never really know when your team is going to be playing its worst or when its most important for you to get them fed. not a good hero to pick for getting terrible players as pubs.

                          also that jakiro win IS my casual bad game. The other feeding frenzies turned comebacks were really just what-is-even-going-on levels of bad team mates. thats what happens when you max search bar though. hell the size of the search bar alone tells me what to expect and how to prepare. its more like an "estimated level of feed" bar.

                          if it turns out the enemy is the feed instead then well your bkb piercing cc and aoe deathball doesn't automatically become overkill or something.

                          Originally posted by Paranoia14 View Post
                          The PA game you posted, your friend who was the naix this time, yet again carried it for you guys and for some ridiculously weird reason, the opposition AM decided to not get a BKB.
                          not really. they weren't even there the vast majority of the game and still had extreme trouble later on. it was most certainly PA crits you can tell since, you know, their entire hp disappears. if anything i carried it 1/8 treant by keeping PA alive in fights that even naix in a 5v4 situation couldn't handle. that way pa could do the damage to carry the team even with terrible items.

                          the naix just managed to get away from fights that would kill them and then fountain farmed some. not dropping dead and farming fountain arent exactly carrying on their own.

                          the AM didnt get BKB because the AM is one of those people you're complaining about. both teams get people like that, so if you are the better player why isn't it your team that's winning? its not hard to pinpoint and ruthlessly exploit their bad players for free gold. just pick things that have the damage to do it.

                          p.s. http://dotabuff.com/matches/240746713 this pl fed hard early, this medusa ancient jungled and got killed then jungled and got HoTD first item because "need it for jungle". she got ganked some after that. whatever. helped pl with his farm timers and rotations. after that just made some more space for medusa to farm by diving really really hard and being ultra aggressive with ganks. still not hard to win. just kind of painfully tedious since medusa got items really out of order. terrible starting item for medusa, not bad third or fourth maybe.

                          invoker in that game was a hard to explain kind of bad and pro at the same time. really great plays along with really terrible ones, even sometimes together at the same time. ogre was just kind of never there/afk and a giant feeder (lots of 1v5). in fact ogre may have been intentionally feeding. not really sure. didnt really matter.

                          you could probably find an excuse for any of these games not being as bad as yours, but they all started that way. it just so happens that i helped turn it around every time. even when the feed was my own. its just that usually the longer a game goes the better the winning team looks when they actually win.
                          Last edited by Meiun; 07-17-2013, 05:00 PM.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Paranoia14 View Post
                            Here's what I need to ask Valve: "How can I improve my rank with teammates like that? "

                            And the only tried and tested answer to that is as soon as my friends get on, we end up stomping more often than not. The only problem is, not all are free at the same time. What I'm pointing out and what you refuse to be able to see is, how terrible their matchmaking is if you aren't playing as a stack. So in short I/anyone shouldn't play solo.

                            I'm not hostile to genuine advice, I'm hostile to senseless advice. A blind fanboy who'll tell me I'm at fault when I show him screenshot proof is definitely not giving genuine advice and of course I'll blame team mates when they have no clue of their heroes. I showed you proof you still seem to try to come up with some ridiculous theory every single time. So Kudos to that.

                            And I tried with my alt too, still shows me as the only Paranoia.
                            The only advice that you'll listen to is advice that confirms your own predjudices. You want someone to tell you that you deserve to be higher ranked than you are, that you should be able to get there without winning the easy matches and that the only reason that you're not is because the matchmaking is broken, but you've provided exactly zero evidence of that.

                            You dismiss advice by falsely categorising people so that you can protect your own ego. I'm not being rude or offensive. It's a very normal reaction, when someone tells us something that we don't want to hear. It happens in most games, but the hope is that after the initial reaction players do actually go away and learn from it.

                            If matchmaking is broken, then we need to see some evidence or Valve aren't going to listen. The fact that you lost a couple of games with a reasonble KDA doesn't tell us anything.

                            I've got some bad news for you. Even if you have some kind of epiphany and manage to improve your game and start winning 66% of matches, it'll take approximately 100 games of increasing difficulty before you get into the Very High skill level and only then will you have decent chance to no longer be matched with players who make bad picks, bad build decisions, don't understand all the heroes and items and throw games in all manner of ways. Yes, sadly, it still happens in Very High, just much less frequently.

                            If you want to understand more then read my post in the following thread http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=93169

                            Oh and the client's still filtering "Paranoia"s on your alternate account due to your friendship with yourself.

                            Good Luck (and I do genuinely mean that).
                            Last edited by Craig; 07-17-2013, 07:06 PM.
                            To avoid LPQ:

                            Don't draw attention to yourself
                            Don't use voice or chat except for 'ss'
                            Mute all at lvl 1
                            Only play in parties
                            Get alternate accounts
                            Limit your usage to one or two games per day per account
                            Don't play too well
                            Don't play on Sunday or Monday
                            Wait until the developers reset LPQ status

                            If you're getting matched with trolls or feeders:

                            You may have been placed in a hidden pool. There is no known way out of this, apart from moving to a different account.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Craig View Post
                              The only advice that you'll listen to is advice that confirms your own predjudices. You want someone to tell you that you deserve to be higher ranked than you are, that you should be able to get there without winning the easy matches and that the only reason that you're not is because the matchmaking is broken, but you've provided exactly zero evidence of that.

                              You dismiss advice by falsely categorising people so that you can protect your own ego. I'm not being rude or offensive. It's a very normal reaction, when someone tells us something that we don't want to hear. It happens in most games, but the hope is that after the initial reaction players do actually go away and learn from it.

                              If matchmaking is broken, then we need to see some evidence or Valve aren't going to listen. The fact that you lost a couple of games with a reasonble KDA doesn't tell us anything.

                              I've got some bad news for you. Even if you have some kind of epiphany and manage to improve your game and start winning 66% of matches, it'll take approximately 100 games of increasing difficulty before you get into the Very High skill level and only then will you have decent chance to no longer be matched with players who make bad picks, bad build decisions, don't understand all the heroes and items and throw games in all manner of ways. Yes, sadly, it still happens in Very High, just much less frequently.

                              If you want to understand more then read my post in the following thread http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=93169

                              Oh and the client's still filtering "Paranoia"s on your alternate account due to your friendship with yourself.

                              Good Luck (and I do genuinely mean that).
                              a lot of people who say mm is broken probably are the same. its not exactly great but its certainly not terrible either. not sure if thats really broken or not. match making certainly is worse than garena or bnet pubs, but you can literally pick who you play with there.

                              a lot of people complain about how match making forces you to be 50% or in the 50% range too. do they not realize that 1% matters a lot and 50% is a pretty decent score? its not the best but its not trash either. well over half, maybe even like two thirds, the community is BELOW 50%.

                              people also seem to ignore some of the cardinal rules of dota. they dont even know not to rage and not to give up. you should only play when you are physically and mentally in good condition to win because the game isnt really over until its actually over.
                              Last edited by Meiun; 07-17-2013, 07:45 PM.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Craig View Post
                                The only advice that you'll listen to is advice that confirms your own predjudices. You want someone to tell you that you deserve to be higher ranked than you are, that you should be able to get there without winning the easy matches and that the only reason that you're not is because the matchmaking is broken, but you've provided exactly zero evidence of that.

                                You dismiss advice by falsely categorising people so that you can protect your own ego. I'm not being rude or offensive. It's a very normal reaction, when someone tells us something that we don't want to hear. It happens in most games, but the hope is that after the initial reaction players do actually go away and learn from it.

                                If matchmaking is broken, then we need to see some evidence or Valve aren't going to listen. The fact that you lost a couple of games with a reasonble KDA doesn't tell us anything.

                                I've got some bad news for you. Even if you have some kind of epiphany and manage to improve your game and start winning 66% of matches, it'll take approximately 100 games of increasing difficulty before you get into the Very High skill level and only then will you have decent chance to no longer be matched with players who make bad picks, bad build decisions, don't understand all the heroes and items and throw games in all manner of ways. Yes, sadly, it still happens in Very High, just much less frequently.

                                If you want to understand more then read my post in the following thread http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=93169

                                Oh and the client's still filtering "Paranoia"s on your alternate account due to your friendship with yourself.

                                Good Luck (and I do genuinely mean that).
                                I was taking your advice when you started posting, right until I saw how you'd go to any extent to say "Valve mm best MM. You guys who complain about it are all trash tier and it's all your fault"

                                Even though I pointed out, in every single game I spoke about, there were players who were new and they admitted it too, if anything, they need a fourth bracket for the really new players, since clearly the present system can't even nearly cut it.

                                Additionally, your beloved Valve did just decide to take time off their cosmetics to make some attempt at improving mm. If it was as AMAZING as you seem to think it to be, they'd never have bothered.

                                So, ty and Good Luck to you too.

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