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  • #61
    Originally posted by Justinian of Hattes View Post


    Nightstalker. Note the large ass weapon, decrepit look, and skinless wings.
    for some reason, that sword looks like whale hook of pudge

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    • #62
      Or it isn't Night Stalker; he isn't listed as any hero in the artist's gallery. So yeah, I'd say that this is Doom. The proportions, the sword and the wings... pretty close to Doom.

      Though the moon and the slick look of the physique on this guy could as well mean NS, too.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by 1337_n00b View Post
        Or it isn't Night Stalker; he isn't listed as any hero in the artist's gallery. So yeah, I'd say that this is Doom. The proportions, the sword and the wings... pretty close to Doom.

        Though the moon and the slick look of the physique on this guy could as well mean NS, too.
        look at image's url, it's from dota2wiki and is named "night stalker concept"
        still, it looks more like a slim doom

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        • #64
          I, too, think it's NS. Though looking at him, I like the new one more. It's fuckin' scary and intimidating, esp. at night Only thing I can't understand are the red pants but well... xD

          PS: Here are some I dig up with my 'awesome' google skillz ^^

          Taken from moredota. So yeah, nothing changed, ded gaem, volvo disband, etc ^^ I personally find them fascinating - the change from then to now is... it's totally different game. 1st and 3rd show radiant well - look how different it is.
          Last edited by Kryil-; 07-19-2014, 09:54 AM.

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          • #65
            It seems initially the idea was not Radiant vs Dire, but a conflict of much smaller scales. And the battlefield used to be some kind of.....desert?
            This may also explain why the alpha concept of creeps were just human soldiers with somewhat Middle-East outfits (or just an outfit for fighting in deserts).

            Some more alpha concepts and portraits:

            AM - little changes. He is probably another "ancient" hero unchanged from his initial design.


            Batrider - something between the bizarre concept from previous pages and what we have now.


            Clockwerk - a larger hero icon, which is pretty self-explanatory.


            Dark Seer - now THIS is worth a mention. Why didn't Valve stick to this design as close as possible?


            Doom - a more bestial version of himself.


            Drow Ranger - apparently her pupils were becoming more and more apparent throughout the entire development. At first she didn't have them at all.


            Mirana - this is her first model that we already know......out of THREE. I don't have SDK anymore, but when it was first discovered for viewing Dota 2 models, the files contained this model for Mirana, her current one and ANOTHER one. It had no textures, but it was the model behind Mirana's current spell icons. Take a closer look at them next time.


            Necrolyte


            Templar Assassin - many of us saw her black leather concept, which was the foundation for the TA we have now. This concept is something a bit different and imho equally interesting.


            Venomancer - this design actually fits his lore of a mutated human much better. Btw, according to polycounters Veno WILL be redesigned in future, which is why there are no cosmetics for him yet - Valve told them to hold on (some say the same awaits Storm Spirit as well).


            Viper - nothing to say, considering he is now among top 3 heroes players want redesign for.


            ...and Weaver. That is just sick.
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            • #66
              look at image's url, it's from dota2wiki and is named "night stalker concept"
              It's originally from Mark Behm's site and there it's called "039". Dota2wiki is NOT the creator in this case, so yeah, their opinion pretty much doesn't count.

              And regarding Dark Seer, the only difference I see is that he's less slick and doesn't have runes on his head, and that's about it. They di stick to the design.

              Plus, that Viper is a bloody mutalisk, somebody call Blizzard.
              Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Frystguard View Post
                look at image's url, it's from dota2wiki and is named "night stalker concept"
                It's standard practice on the Wiki to rename pictures to something more descriptive, lest we end up with pictures that have names like '45634836' or 'fc1_dp_tp'. It's not improbable that we have made a mistake.
                I also was not aware we had that picture on the Wiki.

                Originally posted by Keowee View Post
                Venomancer - this design actually fits his lore of a mutated human much better. Btw, according to polycounters Veno WILL be redesigned in future, which is why there are no cosmetics for him yet - Valve told them to hold on (some say the same awaits Storm Spirit as well).
                He also was removed from the Workshop around the same time that Polycount came with that information.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Keowee View Post
                  Venomancer - this design actually fits his lore of a mutated human much better. Btw, according to polycounters Veno WILL be redesigned in future, which is why there are no cosmetics for him yet - Valve told them to hold on (some say the same awaits Storm Spirit as well).

                  looks like veno's old artist got his hands on something again:
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by blash365 View Post
                    looks like veno's old artist got his hands on something again:
                    Man that courier looks bad... Welcome to League of Ancients...

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                    • #70
                      Out of the frying pan and into the fire, maybe this should be a private forum.

                      Can we keep this circlejerk out of here, thank you very much? The courier doesn't break any of the rules of Dota 2 aside from mentioning where it comes from in the second paragraph of the description. If it wasn't there, I really doubt any of you would have said that it looks bad. Which it doesn't. I'm actually pretty annoyed that that tabletop game exists because since it does, this courier is going to be universally hated. Which it shouldn't be.

                      And it's all because somebody felt the need to start the fire.
                      Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.

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                      • #71
                        Damn this is the best topic on this forum (alongside the lore one ofc!).
                        Some of these old artworks are awesome.
                        I'd agree with that winged character being Doom if it weren't for the fact that there's a moon in the background. Well it kinda looked like a mutated angry WC peon wanting revenge anyways.
                        NS's current design is, imo, one of the best we currently have, and fits his theme really well (reminds me of the vampire-eating vampires from Blade 2).

                        Anybody have any similarly old designs for broodmother or pugna? (my personal favourites)

                        PS: Is it just me or does this last TA artwork look like she's giving the middle finger to someone? Dont know why it was my first impression when i saw it.

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                        • #72
                          No, I don't believe there was anything on Pugna ever - actually, yeah, he's one of the more outdated heroes by now. I only remember a portrait change that got revoked the next update. Broodmother... nah, don't think I've seen much of her myself. And TA is just a big bird flipped to 40% of mid heroes that exist in Dota so it's just natural, really.

                          By the way, just wanted to point out that the strange military PoTM could have grown on me. The current one is just... too slick. There aren't many parts on her that stand out at all, everything is far too round. Doom and Venomancer are just too creepy to exist, man, nobody wants that.

                          Oh and let me just dump what I presume to be the most prominent instance of concept art working better than the release design, which you all have already seen on God Emperor Cyborgmatt's page:



                          If only just because a pilot jumpsuit is better than teal pajamas.

                          P.S. Have some old Ogre Magi too:



                          I now know what that club is supposed to represent. A pig dragon, people! The best kind of dragon.
                          Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.

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                          • #73
                            Any in-game screenshots of the old POTM? I just remember seeing 2 portraits ,one with her head and another with her mount.That looked pretty cool.

                            This thread came a particularly long way yay
                            Karnivool's new album is DOPE!

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                            • #74
                              I wish i had something to contribute to this thread. All I can do is wait for more cool old pictures.

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                              • #75
                                I just went through a ton of Reddit threads posted by Cyborgmatt as I knew that there was at least one more alpha Mirana image. And I found it:

                                It's the spellicon for Sacred Arrow. And seeing the old Mirana model makes me kinda wish they had stuck with that design. I really prefer it over the current Mirana design, whom is far too much fanservice for my liking.

                                But going through Cyborgmatt's posting history also caused me to find something else; an early alpha intro movie for Dota 2, which uses the old alpha map and creeps.
                                It also ends with a wallpaper that most have already seen by now:

                                However, look to the lower left. What is that mount? It's Mirana's alpha mount:


                                Also note Lina in the upper left corner, and a bow in the upper right corner which I can not place. It's very much designed as a Radiant vs Dire battle, but at that point in the alpha, there were no Dire bow users (Clinkz and Medusa both came far, far later, as evidenced by the sheer lack of pre-international alpha presence). So is that Drow, or was one of the TI1 heroes originally designed with a bow in mind?
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