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@Steam, two requests for Abyssal Underlord

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  • @Steam, two requests for Abyssal Underlord

    I know all of us are excited for the imminent introduction of the new monstrosity known as Abyssal Underlord. But a few particular (only two) perhaps arbitrary/trivial things still concern me.

    1.) We may have a first glimpse as to what Abyssal Underlord looks like from his spell icon "Atrophy Aura". Growing up, I always associate characters without pupils to be stronger or at least give off an aura that indicates power. Most of the heroes in Dota 2 that do not have "pupils" seem to extremely powerful in terms of their stories. Judging by his title "Abyssal Underlord", this is clearly no exception either.

    Please make the final end product of Abyssal Underlord without any pupils like other high tier heroes such as Doom, Outworld Devourer, SD, Enigma, etc...


    2.) This is for the lore fans out there. For the sake of extending the lore even more, I believe the Abyssal/Under should be an entirely different realm than hell, Avernus,etc... That way, this will add fresh new stories for more heroes to be under the realm of Abyssal/Under/Underscape and add to its army such as Abyssal Underlord and Razor.
    Either way, is Abyssal Underlord supposed to be the overlord of the Underscape? If so, see #1.

    Make the realm which Abyssal Underlord comes from an entire different dimension.

  • #2
    Originally posted by looldude View Post
    Make the realm which Abyssal Underlord comes from an entire different dimension.
    Might as well, at this point. A realm for every hero!

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    • #3
      A decent point regarding pupils, or better yet, a lack thereof. Something as potentially jagged as AU had better have noticeable blank spots.

      The Abyss... I'm getting a feeling that says it will probably be retroactively tied into some other hero. SF perhaps, what with his Abysm and everything.
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      • #4
        There's a bunch of hells. Clinkz's been to one, Lion to another, Doom's been to them all - I'm sure there's some yet-unused hell AU can be from.
        Avernus is not actually a hell, just a fancy place of the world which has a fountain of 'mist' - Abaddon and his homies have built their family estate around it.
        The Narrow Maze seems like it's a path to hell or not hell. Razor watches over people in it, while Visage hunts those who do not submit to it. Either way, those two are probably not related to AU, especially the former.

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        • #5
          I just don't like the current working name. While we don't need over-the-top stuff like ├╝bergod megaboss and such, the word underlord sounds underwhelming. The word under is a mitigating word, it detracts from effectiveness/power as seen in words like underwhelming, underperforming, under the weather - these are all expressions for weakness/shortcoming. In addition, the starting sounds for the two words are too similar phonetically. Abyssal overlord would be better to satisfy both of my concerns for instance, but it could be anything else, really, as long as it evokes respect/fear and is easy to pronounce.
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          • #6
            AU is MOST likely connected to Demon-ic fellas and me, and i like it.

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            • #7
              There are seven hells, remember that. As for his eyes, I think that's a very minor grievance and that picture is terrifying to me anyway.


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              • #8
                I stumbled upon some unfinished skins for AU and hopefully my eyes aren't playing tricks. He has yellow eyes with no hint of pupils. I hope Steam devs keep it that way.

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                • #9
                  There's a bunch of hells. Clinkz's been to one, Lion to another, Doom's been to them al
                  Clinks hasn't been to any hell. He fought a demon from one, but the hero himself hasn't even died properly.

                  Lion's been to one of the Seven Hells, the same hells that Doom rules over.

                  The Narrow Maze seems like it's a path to hell or not hell.
                  A path to *death. Hell doesn't seem to be related to death in the lore, it's simply the home of the demons.

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                  As for Abyssal, he's going to be a demon. There's no doubt of that in the slightest. That means he won't be the ruler of the Underscape, because that's unrelated to hell. It also means that he's likely to have Ozkavosh lines, and it means that, while he may be the ruler of something, Doom will still be his superior.

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                  • #10
                    Clinks hasn't been to any hell. He fought a demon from one, but the hero himself hasn't even died properly.
                    You're right, I didn't understand the lore correctly. Clinkz fought the demon, driving it back all the way to the gate back to Hell #6. He never passed through it, but he was close. Not close enough, though.

                    Still, yeah, seven hells. AU can very well rule one of them, and it can be colloquially known as Abyss.

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                    • #11
                      There are several reasons why I personally believe Abyssal Underlord is a different class of its own or monsters than your conventional demons (see Doom, SD, SF) are because:

                      1.) Legion Commander's quotes never grouped Abyssal and the hellbeasts together. To the demons (Doom, SD, and SF), she says: Vile hellbeasts!
                      To Abyssal, it is: Abyssal scum!

                      2.) This is more of a theory of mine but I think the Abysm in Shadow Fiend's lore relates or IS the Abyss.
                      Shadow Fiend is the only being outside of the Abyss to actually peer and stalk the souls within the Abysm which is another fancy word for Abyss in poetic term (*gasp* Nevermore is from The Raven poem!). We also know that at least Doom has walked through all 7 hells - to have him not ever walk to the Abyss means the Abyss is an entire different dimension/realm to Hell.

                      This is very interesting and if I were one of the writers, I would definitely have it to where Abyssal Underlord's realm is being stalked under his nose and now he has found out.


                      To those who are lore fanatics. I highly recommend you guys read the D&D's the Blood War. It is essentially Hell vs. Abyss where I believe Hell has 7 layers each governed by a hell lord and 1 hell king that rules all of them versus. the Abyss which has infinite number of layers - each layer is governed by 1 demon king.
                      Last edited by looldude; 01-18-2014, 08:09 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Ahhh, I think I remember, devils and daemons and everything. I used to be big on that, sadly memory is an imperfect vessel.

                        The Abysm part is rather probable - we've already had these slight retcons with Elder Titan and Enigma. There's a decent point made for why they have to be separate, but... I'd just rather we had one more hero who speaks Ozkavosh.

                        Another thing regarding the language though - LC speaks Ozkavosh when equipped with the blades of Voth Domozh. She still despises the abyss, though, so... perhaps the daemons we know aren't in cohorts with AU's people.
                        Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.

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                        • #13
                          Hmm interesting. Can you please direct me to the Elder Titan and Enigma retcons? Thank you.

                          Also, your wish might be granted as Soul Keeper's "leaked" lines were out a few days ago. I just hope they don't make Soul Keeper as tiny as Anti-Mage. He needs to be demonically big like the big three. Still pulling for Soul Keeper having very long and wild/life-like hair floating in the air looking like a demonic boss.

                          And of course no pupils!

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                          • #14
                            Can you please direct me to the Elder Titan and Enigma retcons?
                            We were never given an explanation for the Mad Moon incident, it was assumed that it happened by itself - now ET claims that it's him. Enigma has stopped being an enigma ever since he became a Fundamental - it's still not reflected in his backstory.

                            And yes, Tblade speaks Ozkavosh as well - a great thing, I'm all for that. His personality, stupid jokes aside... belongs in a different thread.
                            Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.

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                            • #15
                              I wonder if he will speak Ozkavosh. Also, his name? since Azgalor is a character on WoW, due to copyright things they will deliver a new name, like Abyssal Underlod in exchange for Pit Lord.

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