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  • No orcs here?

    Sry for bothering but someone closed my previous topic, and i really wonder why.

    My question was:
    Why there no green orcs here?
    Answer was (in short version):
    This is a non-issue, and even if it was, this wouldn't be the place to discuss it in the first place (Note, this isn't the model feedback section). Closing this.
    sry but i really dont understand rules here. I am not telling that this isssue, that there are no green orcs, but just wanted to know why there are no any green orc here, at RP perspective. Lore.

    Dear Hefaistus, you have answered that:
    Because there are no orcs in this game.
    Mhm... ok, you didn have to close tose topic because i have plenty of questions. If You say that there are no any orcs here, so what is Disruptor, and Axe race? f they are not orcs, so what this new, orc-based race is called. Btw. i didnt played in W40km but played a lot in W1,W2, W3, and orcs horde was always my favourite. I see there is also goblin-like timbersaw. Probably You will say there are no goblins here. Ok...so tell please what race is Timbersaw. I also want to ask about Alchemist. It looks like half-gnomme-half-goblin, but i am probably in mistake. What is his race? Next question - trolls. Who is Huskar? Who is Troll Warlord? Why he is red? Why axe and disruptor are red? I know why Clinkz looks this way, because it is written. I am just courious about other heroes.

    To Moderator: Pls dont close this topic, it is not an issue post. I am just asking about Lore, do this isnt purpose of this part of forum?
    Discuss any lore related stuff here
    Last edited by Pshekhaz; 02-13-2014, 02:26 AM.

  • #2
    DotaCinema has regular content updates about lore called "Lore for the Uninitiated" and there is article about axe and co. so you can check it on their web site.
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    • #3
      axe, disruptor and warlock are ogolodi
      tsaw, alch, tinker, clock and sniper are keen
      Last edited by Zorjeff; 02-13-2014, 02:54 AM.
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      • #4
        Why would there be any?

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        • #5
          Thank You people for the answer. This is article from DotaCinema: http://www.dotacinema.com/heroes/axe
          Sry but i didnt see there any info about ogolodi race. Where You got that info from? Can You paste direct link? (sry it is hard to move on this dotacinema blog.)
          Btw. Troll Warlord isnt troll too? What is his race if he isnt troll?
          Edit:
          Why would there be any?
          - ? Any what?
          Last edited by Pshekhaz; 02-13-2014, 03:45 AM.

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          • #6
            Any orcs.

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            • #7
              Ok, ok i got this here - http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923, but i still dont catch it. They look like orcs, sounds like orcs, fight like orc, so what wrong with The name? Orc - this isnt bad name.
              Last edited by Pshekhaz; 02-13-2014, 04:23 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pshekhaz View Post
                Ok, ok i got this here - http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923, but i still dont catch it. They look like orcs, sounds like orcs, fight like orc, so what wrong with The name? Orc - this isnt bad name.
                I guess they can't call Axe an orc. We have many copyright bullshit here, and I guess that red orcs could be partially copyrighted by Blizzard.
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                • #9
                  Perhaps it's because Orcs are a very cliche and overused archetypical race in fantasy, so they went with a different name. As Heifastus pointed out, this is ultimately a non issue. They COULD be called orcs and it would mean as much.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by D1D2 View Post
                    DotaCinema has regular content updates about lore called "Lore for the Uninitiated" and there is article about axe and co. so you can check it on their web site.
                    *Flattered*
                    Oh you.

                    But really, I have written an article on the very characters you've asked about.
                    They're early articles so they're not that comprehensive but I hope it answers your questions.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nemzal View Post
                      *Flattered*
                      Oh you.

                      But really, I have written an article on the very characters you've asked about.
                      They're early articles so they're not that comprehensive but I hope it answers your questions.
                      Oh hi! But I don't think your articles can answer OPs question. I guess there are two main reasons why they made them Ogodi and not Orc.
                      1. It's a really cliche race, so Valve wanted something different.
                      2. Red orcs might fall under Blizzards copyright.
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                      • #12
                        How could orcs or red orcs be copyrighted?That means blizzard would have to sue LOTR director for actually orcs being red in LOTR when born.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wulfstan View Post
                          How could orcs or red orcs be copyrighted?That means blizzard would have to sue LOTR director for actually orcs being red in LOTR when born.
                          Considering that they apparently have rights of words like "Doom Bringer" and "Windrunner", I guess they can sue Valve for red orcs. The truth is is that Valve don't want to take any chances. I don't think that Blizzard can actually win a case about Valve using words "Doom Bringer", but even so it's still lost time and money, so they change everything that can cause troubles.
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                          • #14
                            They changed Doom Bringer to just Doom and Windrunner to Windranger.So no, they can't.And as I said, they should all look first at LOTR, actually, come to think of it, LOTR should sue both.Yeah.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wulfstan View Post
                              They changed Doom Bringer to just Doom and Windrunner to Windranger.So no, they can't.And as I said, they should all look first at LOTR, actually, come to think of it, LOTR should sue both.Yeah.
                              I don't really know how this thing works, but apparently everything was changed just for safety. Remember, Valve won the lawsuit about using name "Dota" and technically Dota 2 is a competitor to HotS.
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