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  • Nessaj and Darchow

    I'm bothered why did Valve have to remove CK and Enigma's names.

    Its not like those are even copyrighted, right?

    Petitioning for the inclusion of their names in the game library please.

  • #2
    Enigma is supposed to be an Enigma, even if he does a slightly shoddy job at it. A name would ruin a bit of his character.

    Chaos Knight is a Fundamental who is not as senile as KoTL and therefore does not give himself a name while pretending to be an old horseback-riding wizard. He does not need a different name. Before you start, it seems that Wisp was called Io by those who took him for a star. Or, well, maybe it's the most you can get out of his language.

    Both these names were removed for stylistic purposes, bringing them back would be for the worse.
    Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.

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    • #3
      And Anti-Mage's name?
      NP's also?

      Pugna's title too?

      i don't even know why they aren't putting different names or if they remove more names and titles.

      Originally posted by Phoenix.
      2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
      2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
      Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


      Credits to Phoenix.

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      • #4
        Well, if you think of it from lore point of view, it can make sense. Names are essential for us, because we are humans. Enigma, on the other hand, doesn't even need name. Enigma is a name we use to identify him. Same goes for CK and NP. None of them lives among humans, so they don't need any names. I'm not sure about AM, because he was a human once. But considering that his only goal is to end all magic and his whole personality consists of his hatred to magic, it is kind of logical that he is known only as Anti Mage.
        That, and Darchow sounds unbelievably stupid.
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        • #5
          Enigma is a better character without a name. How can something that is everything and nothing and a paradox that he's even able to manifest in reality have a name?

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          • #6
            Pugna's title is Oblivion.
            Ok fine about Enigma, but CK's name is iconic.

            Nessaj seems a cool name for a fundamental. I mean, why can KotL keep the name Ezalor and he doesn't?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Takesis View Post
              Pugna's title is Oblivion.
              Ok fine about Enigma, but CK's name is iconic.

              Nessaj seems a cool name for a fundamental. I mean, why can KotL keep the name Ezalor and he doesn't?
              As I already said, it is mostly because KotL needs a name because he lives among humans. CK is the Chaos itself in the form of a horseman. Considering that he destroys everything in his path, he doesn't need a name.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Takesis View Post
                Pugna's title is Oblivion.
                Pugna is no longer Oblivion.

                Originally posted by Phoenix.
                2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
                2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
                Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


                Credits to Phoenix.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Legion Commander View Post
                  Pugna is no longer Oblivion.
                  I just checked in the Dota wiki and Pugna does have the title Oblivion.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GoldK View Post
                    I just checked in the Dota wiki and Pugna does have the title Oblivion.
                    They reverted it back? YAY!

                    Sry, i was talking about this lel but they changed it back!

                    Originally posted by Phoenix.
                    2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
                    2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
                    Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


                    Credits to Phoenix.

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                    • #11
                      Pugna is Oblivion on the wiki because whoever edited the page decided to call him that; it's not an official source. If anything, he's the Grandmaster of the Arts of Oblivion. Oblivion itself was one of the dumbest hero titles I knew, and it's not in the game anymore. He isn't referred to as the Oblivion once in the backstory, and neither does he say that himself.

                      And again, Chaos Knight's lack of a name was evidently done for the same stylistic purposes as Enigma's. Doubt that any further discussion will bear any fruit.
                      Last edited by 1337_n00b; 03-13-2014, 01:30 PM.
                      Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.

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                      • #12
                        I think Nessaj is actually a unit from the WC3 editor. Then again, "terrorblade" laso comes straight out of WC3 so... But you never know, with valve having 0 balls and removing everything that isn't even copyright infringement and all.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Takesis View Post
                          I'm bothered why did Valve have to remove CK and Enigma's names.

                          Its not like those are even copyrighted, right?

                          Petitioning for the inclusion of their names in the game library please.
                          Please change your avatar I hate looking at it. Now to say something relevant, Why does everyone have such a massive stiffy for having a name and title accordant to every single hero? How is that even important. It does not make sense for someone like Enigma or Nyx Assassin to have a name, nor does it make sense for someone like Pugna to have a title (He sorta destroyed the temple that gave him that title for fun.).


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