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  • torgonudho
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    Maybe not an energy, but not matter either. And i didnt say he can kill Enigma, but has a little potantial if she doesn't affect from gravity. Someone who doesnt effect from gravity means immunity from black hole but still she cant beat Enigma easily. Enigma's Black Hole is not his only weapon. He's midnight pulse pulling the enemies to the nothingness. Thats cool too.

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  • Legion Commander
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    Originally posted by torgonudho View Post
    Just as higher states of energy seek a lower level, the Spectre known as Mercurial is a being of intense and violent energy who finds herself irresistibly drawn to scenes of strife as they unfold in the physical world. While her normal spectral state transcends sensory limitations, each time she takes on a physical manifestation, she is stricken by a loss of self--though not of purpose. In the clash of combat, her identity shatters and reconfigures, and she begins to regain awareness. She grasps that she is Mercurial the Spectre--and that all of her Haunts are but shadows of the one true Spectre. Focus comes in the struggle for survival; her true mind reasserts itself; until in the final moments of victory or defeat, she transcends matter and is restored once more to her eternal form.

    Physical manifestation means being matter i guess eh? Before she takes on a physical manifestation, what is she, cupcake?

    Also dispersions description:
    A daunting task lies before enemies of Mercurial - killing a shadow with blade and magic

    A shadow. Shadow is not a matter.
    Alright, you got me. ( bcuz you proved it this time)

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  • torgonudho
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    Just as higher states of energy seek a lower level, the Spectre known as Mercurial is a being of intense and violent energy who finds herself irresistibly drawn to scenes of strife as they unfold in the physical world. While her normal spectral state transcends sensory limitations, each time she takes on a physical manifestation, she is stricken by a loss of self--though not of purpose. In the clash of combat, her identity shatters and reconfigures, and she begins to regain awareness. She grasps that she is Mercurial the Spectre--and that all of her Haunts are but shadows of the one true Spectre. Focus comes in the struggle for survival; her true mind reasserts itself; until in the final moments of victory or defeat, she transcends matter and is restored once more to her eternal form.

    Physical manifestation means being matter i guess eh? Before she takes on a physical manifestation, what is she, cupcake?

    Also dispersions description:
    A daunting task lies before enemies of Mercurial - killing a shadow with blade and magic

    A shadow. Shadow is not a matter.

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  • Legion Commander
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    Originally posted by torgonudho View Post
    And Spectre maybe, if i remember correctly, black holes can't suck something that is not matter. Like the light, black hole catches the light but light still continues its way. And Spectre is not a matter.

    Silencer has a potantial to kill ANY mage indeed. And some heroes that has %50 physical fighting skills and %50 magical skills, but warriors with extreme physical skills, like Drow, Silencer won't stand a chance. But yeah sure there is a rock-paper-scissors situation. Invoker>Drow>Silencer>Invoker.
    Wait, where did you get that from?

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  • torgonudho
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    And Spectre maybe, if i remember correctly, black holes can't suck something that is not matter. Like the light, black hole catches the light but light still continues its way. And Spectre is not a matter.

    Silencer has a potantial to kill ANY mage indeed. And some heroes that has %50 physical fighting skills and %50 magical skills, but warriors with extreme physical skills, like Drow, Silencer won't stand a chance. But yeah sure there is a rock-paper-scissors situation. Invoker>Drow>Silencer>Invoker.

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  • Shadrone
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    Well, technically, Enigma may be able to be killed by those like Harbinger. But even if he died, the black hole he made will kill his killer as well. ...or maybe just suck in his killer before they can even do anything.

    And, let me just get back to Silencer, sure, he can physically fight, and he can implement his mental power into his blades or other his means of physical combat, but tsh, there are still stronger people than him. Wingranger can just run around his flurry of glaives and shoot an arrow into his eye.

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  • Lord_Talron
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    Theres no evidence od is anywhere near enigmas level iirc

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  • Khassar
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    Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
    No we have creatures that exist in different universes. Planes is not the correct term, neither is dimension. Although Void's universe lacks the Time dimension.
    Terms like dimension, plane, universe, realm and reality are used interchangeably through the dota 2 lore, so that argument doesn't hold much water.

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  • Crowfeather
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    Originally posted by Khassar View Post
    Interdimensionally != everywhere in the universe, it just means that it effects several planes at once (and we have plenty of planeswalkers in the game, so that's nothing special). Enigma is representation of the gravitational force which on the other hand is omnipresent, so I'd say once again that OD can't really match up to him.
    No we have creatures that exist in different universes. Planes is not the correct term, neither is dimension. Although Void's universe lacks the Time dimension.

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  • Lord_Talron
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    weaver can only change his personal reality, he got stripped of the majority of his powers.

    3rd time ive stated this...

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  • torgonudho
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    Meh..Weaver then. Changes reality.

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  • Khassar
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    Originally posted by torgonudho View Post
    I know its not official, thats why im discussing it

    Outworld Deveourer's skills are space-energy stuff. Just as Enigma. Yes black hole cannot be stopped but Sanity's Eclipse can? In the skill description it says the energy can be feeled from everywhere of the universe.Black hole?i dont think so. Depends on who casts before.
    Interdimensionally != everywhere in the universe, it just means that it effects several planes at once (and we have plenty of planeswalkers in the game, so that's nothing special). Enigma is representation of the gravitational force which on the other hand is omnipresent, so I'd say once again that OD can't really match up to him.

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  • torgonudho
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    I know its not official, thats why im discussing it

    Outworld Deveourer's skills are space-energy stuff. Just as Enigma. Yes black hole cannot be stopped but Sanity's Eclipse can? In the skill description it says the energy can be feeled from everywhere of the universe.Black hole?i dont think so. Depends on who casts before.

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  • Khassar
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    Originally posted by torgonudho View Post
    Im sorry about the Dead God, but still i got 1 more example.

    Lion slayed a demon when he was an average sorcerer. I'd say it was a weak and common demon but u see the demons arm. It makes Lion muuch stronger than its oldself. Still it is not a special demon but Lion's oldself was at 4th class, demon was at 3rd.

    And i still say Outworld Deveourer can defeat Enigma. Or at least one of the most capables.
    The list is made by me, it is in no way official, so don't be surprised if you find errors or gray areas.

    The demons in the hero pool are the masters of the Seven Hells, they are the most powerful demons out there (along with the Underlord, I suppose), and the one that got killed by lion could be no more than a lesser demon, like Warlock's golem, for example. Of course, the opposite could also be true, the demon was in the third power bracket, and Lion is just as powerful, but I find it unlikely.

    OD, while probably wielding power worthy of the third bracket, simply can't compete with a Fundamental.

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  • torgonudho
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    Im sorry about the Dead God, but still i got 1 more example.

    Lion slayed a demon when he was an average sorcerer. I'd say it was a weak and common demon but u see the demons arm. It makes Lion muuch stronger than its oldself. Still it is not a special demon but Lion's oldself was at 4th class, demon was at 3rd.

    And i still say Outworld Deveourer can defeat Enigma. Or at least one of the most capables.

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