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    Questions about Nyx Assassin's morphology and his goddess

    First of all I will ask you to refrain from pointing out how silly my questions might be, I've been a huge insect and biology lover since I can remember and it has impacted my choice of heroes when it comes to such games as Dota 2

    So here are my questions:
    • Since in his lore Nyx Assassin is mentioned to be an insect (seeing how his species are included in an entomological book) why does he have 8 limbs instead of 6 like all insects?
    • The description of one of his abilities as well as one of his quotes suggest that he has an exoskeleton made of chitin like real arthropods why does he seem like he is wearing a steel armor?
    • Is his goddess queen Nyx real or not? Since his lore does not make that clear, his species is mentioned to be social so they must have a queen, is Nyx that queen?


    I hope you can help me with these mind troubling mysteries
    Tags: bug, insect, morphology, nyx, questions
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    Not like it's going to hurt to answer.

    Since in his lore Nyx Assassin is mentioned to be an insect (seeing how his species are included in an entomological book) why does he have 8 limbs instead of 6 like all insects?
    He's an assassin, a specific assassin at that - augmentation and other vivisection is commonplace for them. It's pretty likely that his pincers were just screwed in to make him more efficent - in fact, some cosmetics point to that.

    The description of one of his abilities as well as one of his quotes suggest that he has an exoskeleton made of chitin like real arthropods why does he seem like he is wearing a steel armor?
    It's suggested that the armor grows over the main carapace - that, or it is actually forged. Something tells me that a layer of chitin does not do wonders agaisnt magic, swords, arrows and lasers.

    Is his goddess queen Nyx real or not? Since his lore does not make that clear, his species is mentioned to be social so they must have a queen, is Nyx that queen?
    The vagueness is where it's at - we aren't sure. Looking at how a lot of gods in the game like to be pretty oblique, it's likely that Nyx is just a very powerful creature, possibly their queen, who "cosplays" as their goddess. If she isn't the queen, then she's just there, birthing larvae and not being all too important.

    Honestly, I'd be more confused as to why Broodmother, a spider, has a mouth with teeth. The answer is "to make you miserable", but, yeah. This one I can't explain.
    Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Buzzing View Post
      [*]Since in his lore Nyx Assassin is mentioned to be an insect (seeing how his species are included in an entomological book) why does he have 8 limbs instead of 6 like all insects?
      Actually, insects also have '8'. Forward pair derived into mandibles, it's possible in Nyx it just evolved back into real appendages. See this spider, 8 or 10 legs?

      [*]The description of one of his abilities as well as one of his quotes suggest that he has an exoskeleton made of chitin like real arthropods why does he seem like he is wearing a steel armor?
      Why not? Chitin would actually be kind of awful as armour, but good for under armour layer.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 1337_n00b View Post
        He's an assassin, a specific assassin at that - augmentation and other vivisection is commonplace for them. It's pretty likely that his pincers were just screwed in to make him more efficent - in fact, some cosmetics point to that.
        Which comsetics exactly? I'm curious

        Also could it be that the scarab courier Scribbins is actually related to Nyx's species (maybe the worker caste) seeing how Nyx Assassin was shown at the end of the demonstration video? The exoskeleton seems very like the one on Nyx.

        Originally posted by 1337_n00b View Post
        It's suggested that the armor grows over the main carapace - that, or it is actually forged. Something tells me that a layer of chitin does not do wonders agaisnt magic, swords, arrows and lasers.
        Would be weird if it actually grew since it seems to be made of some metal. Actually as strange at this may sound chitin based exoskeletons can be stronger than iron, for example ironclad beetles need a drill to be pinned and can even survive being ran over by a car.

        Originally posted by 1337_n00b View Post
        The vagueness is where it's at - we aren't sure. Looking at how a lot of gods in the game like to be pretty oblique, it's likely that Nyx is just a very powerful creature, possibly their queen, who "cosplays" as their goddess. If she isn't the queen, then she's just there, birthing larvae and not being all too important.
        Interesting... Is she mentioned anywhere else in the game's lore outisde of Nyx Assassin's bio?

        Originally posted by 1337_n00b View Post
        Honestly, I'd be more confused as to why Broodmother, a spider, has a mouth with teeth. The answer is "to make you miserable", but, yeah. This one I can't explain.
        Add to that her responce that she eats liquified guts of her enemies and it makes it even more bizzare I guess the coolness factor comes before accuracy...

        By the way could it be that Valve simply added 2 more legs to Nyx simply because of the copyright issue which they might have if he looks too much like Anub'Arak? I mean they did change the names because of that.

        Originally posted by Trx View Post
        Actually, insects also have '8'. Forward pair derived into mandibles, it's possible in Nyx it just evolved back into real appendages. See this spider, 8 or 10 legs?
        I know that mandibles are believed to have evolved from legs but still Nyx's anatomy suggests that the upper body (which I guess is the thorax) is built to have strong appendages and he does already have mandibles. I'm going to ignore the fact that his walking legs are connected to the abdomen rather than the thorax but in the world of Dota 2 it seems that some insects indeed follow such a body plan (just look at the courier Alphid of Lecaciida, there are arms attached to the thorax and 4 walking legs attached to the abdomen).

        Originally posted by Trx View Post
        Why not? Chitin would actually be kind of awful as armour, but good for under armour layer.
        Chitin can be very strong, one of the strongest natural material actually. A recent experiment found chiting based cuticle to be stronger than iron while also being lighter which makes a perfect armour if you ask me

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