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  • #31
    Zeus is definitely Human too (mortal). He is a God (was?), granted, but he made himself Human because of is wife etc. - so should be included too in the Huma list

    Also, Pugna might be/has been a Human, his lore tells that he grew up etc. and then brought to the Cult thingy, so maybe there he got his horns and got all greenish?

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    • #32
      I have lots of information about FRP (Fantasy Role Playing) . And I will share what I know.

      First : The race of EarthShaker is exactly Minotour in Dota 2 style. Just like Blizzard, Valve have made a little change on this source race as I see. Perhaps they will change the race name. In addition You can see this race in Warcraft series as a Tauren.

      Drow Ranger : Drows are a piece of Elven Race. Their skin is darker , mostly they have white hairs and eyes , they usually live underground. They have extented vision in the night. They are an evil race. But rarerly there are some examples that proves not the All Drows are evil and someones are really more hero then other races. You can read their background history and why they are evil if you search a little in google.

      Pudge : I have no comments to make for him. He is zombie that's clear. About his story I have lots of theories but I'm not here to confuse anyone

      WarLock : He can be a half-orc or not. His looking is weird but that's can be explained by his sorcerer ways in battle which can corrupt his body to change in time.

      Anti-Mage : Don't separate him from human class. His blink skill clearly shows his mind is linked a with source of eternity or the dark space. Which can explain those glowing eyes. Also mana-break skill is also proves that he is in contact with Cold-Dark Energy...

      The time is very late in my region, I will contunie my post after I woke up.

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      • #33
        Did you just make up trowle or is valve using it? Anyway i still think that batrider is a troll even though he looks off....

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        • #34
          Originally posted by aut.taker View Post
          Zeus is definitely Human too (mortal). He is a God (was?), granted, but he made himself Human because of is wife etc. - so should be included too in the Huma list
          Zeus is not definitely human. While his voicelines imply that he is mortal, his lore actually says that he is still a God, that he never gave up his immortality. It's quite the contradiction, so we can't say safely either way.

          Originally posted by aut.taker View Post
          Also, Pugna might be/has been a Human, his lore tells that he grew up etc. and then brought to the Cult thingy, so maybe there he got his horns and got all greenish?
          Pugna was born in a realm nearby the realm of Viper, the Nether Reaches, so I don't think that Pugna is actually human, especially since Viper and Pugna share the same colour scheme and overall design.

          Originally posted by FrozenDarkness View Post
          Drow Ranger : Drows are a piece of Elven Race. Their skin is darker , mostly they have white hairs and eyes , they usually live underground. They have extented vision in the night. They are an evil race. But rarerly there are some examples that proves not the All Drows are evil and someones are really more hero then other races. You can read their background history and why they are evil if you search a little in google.
          I'm going to have to correct you here. Modern day Drow definitions are the dark skinned, white haired Elves that live underground. The original Drow (or more commonly known as Trow) are those as described in Drow Ranger's lore. Traxex is not an actual Drow. She is a ranger raised by the Drow's.

          Originally posted by Zayex View Post
          Did you just make up trowle or is valve using it?
          Shadow Shaman's lore calls him a part Hill Trowle, so the name 'Trowle' comes from Valve.
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          • #35
            Frozen: Just a couple of things that you've got (decidedly) wrong. In Dota 2, Earthshaker is a spirit of the earth; he formed his body from the land so that he could roam it. And Traxex is not a Drow; she was just raised by them. Plus, Valve seems to be using the original definition of Drow, which means they aren't the 'dark elves' we know them to be in other fiction.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by FrozenDarkness View Post
              First : The race of EarthShaker is exactly Minotour in Dota 2 style. Just like Blizzard, Valve have made a little change on this source race as I see. Perhaps they will change the race name. In addition You can see this race in Warcraft series as a Tauren.
              I disagree, HARD. Is it so hard to assume that Valve just went away from the minotaur path and made a completely different beast from it? It's now Valve's IP and they can do what the fuck they want with it, they don't have to adhere to any D&D/Middle Earth/Forgotten Realms whatever rules, they can just make a new creature from it on their own leasure.

              Go read Spirit Breaker his current lore, it implies heavily that it will be a minotaur like beast (or at least have some features from a bull), if Spirit Breaker is a Minotaur, then Earthshaker is something else, not just a 'valve minotaur'.

              The big mistake you make here is saying you have a lot of knowledge about 'fantasy role play', exactly, fantasy. Fantasy heavily implies that people can make up whatever they want it to be, not follow rules made up by others. For example, you could call Star Wars a fantasy (although some would call it Sci-Fi, I wouldn't call it that actually), do you see Orcs running around there? How can you have 'knowledge' about something that is not bound by ANY rule. If you would have said that you have alot of knowledge about D&D, your statement wouldn't be so weird, apart from the fact that this is DotA and not D&D. But now you are just enforcing rules on something which doesn't have alot of rules yet, only whatever Valve wants to make from this.

              Originally posted by FrozenDarkness View Post
              Drow Ranger : Drows are a piece of Elven Race. Their skin is darker , mostly they have white hairs and eyes , they usually live underground. They have extented vision in the night. They are an evil race. But rarerly there are some examples that proves not the All Drows are evil and someones are really more hero then other races. You can read their background history and why they are evil if you search a little in google.
              Yet Valve stated that Drow are nothing like that in DotA. (and that Drow Ranger is actually not a 'real' Drow).

              Originally posted by FrozenDarkness View Post
              Pudge : I have no comments to make for him. He is zombie that's clear. About his story I have lots of theories but I'm not here to confuse anyone
              Wrong again. Well, he could be a 'zombie' if Valve makes that what a zombie is. Apart from that, Zombies are commonly resurrected corpses, not sewn together corpers which make up for a whole new creature. Which is what Pudge is.

              Originally posted by FrozenDarkness View Post
              Anti-Mage : Don't separate him from human class. His blink skill clearly shows his mind is linked a with source of eternity or the dark space. Which can explain those glowing eyes. Also mana-break skill is also proves that he is in contact with Cold-Dark Energy...
              Cold-Dark Energy? STOP - THIS.

              Really, it's nice and all that you have alot of knowledge about Dungeons and Dragons or whatever, but I can't urge this point enough:

              THIS IS NO DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS. THIS IS NOT MIDDLE EARTH. THIS - IS - DOTA!
              Last edited by Coal; 12-26-2011, 09:45 PM.

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              • #37
                What's going on here? I've laughed all replies on me except Hefaistus' one. You guys are actually misunderstanding. First of all Fantasy worlds have same resources which makes them similiar (including A universe like Star Wars and others...) . That can take more then a hour to teach someone about this thing. The another thing is; My comments were about their(heroes) looks not the valve's lore histories. You know why? I didn't read any background stories of any heroes yet. I was just talking about their source races. AND WHO CALLED DROW RANGER AS DROW ??? And you said that pudge is not a zombie. That's a shit. You said "Zombies are commonly ressurrected corpses" and You give your reply by yourself. I won't teach what zombie is. By the way I didn't say EarthShaker was a real Minotour (Note that DoTA 2 Style). It's samething to call a Tauren as Minotour.. AND AT LAST "DOTA" AND "DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS" are based on FRP. Even their mechanics are almost same. And I can give examples for DoTA from any Fantastic Game that based on FRP. Anything else?

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                • #38
                  You're acting so hostile, man. Honestly, the way you're presenting yourself right now isn't helping at all. Cool off a bit, alright?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The_Codfish View Post
                    You're acting so hostile, man. Honestly, the way you're presenting yourself right now isn't helping at all. Cool off a bit, alright?
                    Your comment is actually united with some parts of "Coal"'s one. And I readed it as one. Im sorry if you annoyed about my last comment.

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                    • #40
                      I think that Batrider can be considered a goblin or maybe more specifically gnoblar.

                      But Razzle the Alchemist? Goblin? The guy's the gnomiest gnome in the game, next to tinker!

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                      • #41
                        Groups to think about are:

                        Immortal
                        Undead
                        Bugs/Monster/Animals

                        The last category is self explanatory when looking at the list of heroes.

                        As for Immortal I would put a Invoker - Enigma - AA - Lion - Spectre - Void - Razor.

                        As for Undead - Lifestealer - SK - Pugna - Death Prophet - Necrolyte - Lich - Clinkz - Shadow Fiend - Doom Bringer - Pudge. Most are given away from their avatar others moves. Such as Shadow Fiend stealing souls - Prophet controlling ghosts - Necrolyte being like death (Family Guy :P) - Doom Bringer being named Lucifer and bringing doom...

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                        • #42
                          i like to think the pointy ears are an effect of huge amounts of or prolonged exposition to magic. necrolyte's look pretty different from the others so i would guess it's more a credit to his deformity. his lore suggests that he's not quite dead and not quite alive either so the theory that his features are solely changed by rot can be questioned. maybe it's just the combined effect of the plague and magical energy.

                          that or maybe they're some side effect of not aging/immortality.

                          the races in Dota seem to be more like those in folklore than those in a fantasy world. that is to say, numerous. i wouldn't even go as far as to assume riki and neutral satyrs the same race. sniper and tinker are the same race but i doubt it's the gnomes mentioned in the ring description.

                          anti-mage (and sven, according to the world map) are human or something to that effect but simply have a different tone of skin. his eyes are likely some effect of stuff in his past.
                          Last edited by doomsheep; 01-28-2012, 05:53 AM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Coal View Post
                            Check it

                            His ears seem slightly pointy and his eyes glow, but neither that nor his story implies hes actually an Elf. I would rather think hes just a human who became more than a human.
                            Invoker was not just an elf,he was from Blood Elves Race!(Long ears,white skin,red and black armors)



                            So here are some information about Blood Elves.I will not give you everything because they are sooo much.I will write the most important and if anybody wants more,I will give them to him.


                            The blood elves, sin'dorei in Thalassian ("children of the blood"), are a race composed of former high elves who renamed themselves in honor of their people who were killed during the siege of Quel'Thalas by the Scourge during the Third War.

                            The blood elves of Azeroth joined the Horde in the Burning Crusade expansion, seeking to reunite with Prince Kael'thas Sunstrider in Outland.

                            They have since reclaimed their capital of Silvermoon City, situated in Eversong Woods.


                            Blood Elves Introduction


                            Those now known as blood elves were once high elves. In the transition that led to this renaming, they glorified their civilization while discarding their honor. Life for the blood elves changed during the Third War, when King Arthas' Scourge sacked Quel'Thalas and shattered the elven race.
                            The Scourge slew more than 90% of the high elven population, devastating their culture.

                            Prince Kael'thas Sunstrider was studying magic in Dalaran at the time of the disaster.
                            He returned from his studies to find Quel'Thalas in ruins.
                            Thirsting for vengeance, Kael'thas gathered the survivors and renamed them "blood elves" in honor of their fallen king.

                            The blood elves who sided themselves with Kael'thas escaped with the aid of the naga, fled to Outland, and joined Illidan Stormrage's forces.
                            This group of blood elves then helped defeat the demon Magtheridon and claimed his Black Citadel as their own.

                            In exchange for the blood elves' loyal service, Illidan gave them a place to live, as well as further techniques to siphon mana from anything with arcane power. Blood elves in Outland now hunt demons and feed off the demons' magic.


                            Physical appearance

                            Blood elves were physically identical to high elves, save that they dressed primarily in blacks and reds to remind themselves of their terrible losses. Many painted runes or mysterious tattoos on their faces, arms and shoulders for warding off demons or celebrating significant kills or simply to look intimidating something high elves would never do. As well, they adopted hair styles that went against the norms of high elf society.

                            Blood elves have long pointy ears, acute senses and keen sight in the darkness. Night elves have long, slanted ears while blood elves' ears are shorter and tend to point upwards.

                            Eyes

                            Their eyes are said to be green, they have been shown different in some sources:

                            1) Blood elven eyes were depicted white and pupil-less

                            A possible explanation for this is that when the blood elves first began to feed on demonic magic, it took a while for their eyes to change to the green.Their eyes lost their blue hue and became white.

                            2 Blood elves had normal white eyes with pupils


                            Culture

                            Blood elves wear crimson-colored robes to suggest their fiery affiliation and the blood of the fallen elves in Quel'Thalas. Many concentrate on studying arcane and fire magic, as opposed to the traditional frost and water spells of their lost high elf society.


                            Relationships

                            While they hate most races, they have come to accept the Forsaken, as they share the same goals.

                            The western Horde recognizes the blood elves as dangerous, volatile and ultimately destructive.

                            The Horde orcs, Darkspear trolls and tauren distrust the blood elves, as their addiction to magic makes the high elves look like amateurs.

                            Blood elves are enemies of both humanity and the night elves.

                            The blood elves consider the naga their allies and friends.

                            The other neutral races that interest them are the goblins and some of dark trolls


                            About Silencer

                            So,maybe Silencer belongs to Blood Elven Race but maybe not because in dota 2 he hasnt got long ears like here .

                            BUT I know a lore that says


                            Nortrom - The Silencer


                            Hailing from the magical community of Quel'Thalas, Nortrom is one of the strongest Elven warriors defending the integrity of the lands. Mastering the ancient art of glaive-throwing, and combining it with the volatile nature of the Blood Elves' arcane magic, he is able to disrupt the magical energies in his enemies.
                            By binding his magical powers to his glaive, he is able to cause damage beyond devastation, gaining intelligence from every kill.

                            Concentrating all his energies, he can cause chaos within his enemies' magical pools, making them unable to cast spells. He is determined to fend off the Scourge and their demon magic until he has breathed his last.

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                            • #44
                              And those are from Blizzard Warcraft's Universe, while Dota 2 has its own world.

                              Elves in different games are different. In Dota 2, Invoker is not a blood elf and Blood Elf belongs to Blizzard.

                              And I believe Silencer in Dota 2 is a human.

                              You use Dota 1 lores, which is not used in Dota 2, thus, make your post make no sense.
                              Last edited by ShadowThanatos; 01-30-2012, 06:22 AM.
                              "HUMAN ELEMENT"

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ShadowThanatos View Post
                                And those are from Blizzard Warcraft's Universe, while Dota 2 has its own world.

                                Elves in different games are different. In Dota 2, Invoker is not a blood elf and Blood Elf belongs to Blizzard.

                                And I believe Silencer in Dota 2 is a human.

                                You use Dota 1 lores, which is not used in Dota 2, thus, make your post make no sense.
                                So,because in DotA 2 lores are different from DotA 1,Antimage and Magina are not the same here.
                                In the one post you say something,and in another post you say something completely defferent.
                                Learn to support what you are saying.

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