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Official Oracle Lore

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    " Ascendants to the Great Seat of Cymurri had for ages imported their Oracles exclusively from the Ivory Incubarium, high in the hollow peaks of the Zealot's Range, with a downpayment made at the time of the embryo's conception and the balance surrendered on delivery of a mature, well-trained prophet to the Gate of the Graven King.

    Raised by same Pallid Sybils who bred and birthed them, all sanctioned Oracles were anchored by their physical form to the world we most of us share; meanwhile, their souls roamed far afield, barely bound by the airiest astral umbilicus. From such cosmic roamings the prophets would return, speaking words of fire with tongues of flesh. Their mystic utterances were analyzed by the Cymurri Advisors, who found in them visions of the future, diplomatic advice, all the supernatural ammunition the line of Graven Kings needed to secure victory in every campaign, whether in the court or on the battlefield. Thus it went for generations, the Graventome's pages filling with the names of triumphant kings and the new domains they had acquired. So it went, that is, until the particular Oracle named Nerif arrived to serve the very last of the stone-helmed kings.

    From the first, Nerif's prophecies were unusual. They seemed not merely to portend the future, but to shape it. The weird soothsayer croaked out advice no one had requested, and suddenly the Cymurri found themselves immersed in conflicts with newfound enemies. The Advisors, sensing a threat to their power, were quick to pin these unwelcome developments on the latest Oracle. They demanded his removal, petitioning the Sybils to reclaim their defective prophet and replace him with a worthy substitute. But Nerif described an ominous dream of the Incubarium's destruction, and within hours came news of the ancient school's destruction in a catastrophic avalanche. Fearing the same fate as the Pallid Sybils, the Advisors withdrew to their counsel chambers, suddenly anxious to avoid the Oracle's notice. The Graven King, however, was a creature of great practicality. He doubted the commitment of his overprudent Advisors. An Oracle of such rarity, he reasoned, ought be used as a weapon to enlarge his domain. He therefore demoted his timid counselors and stationed Nerif at his side. With only a blunt understanding of Nerif's talent, he boldly stated the outcomes he desired, and coaxed Nerif into uttering his wishes as prophecy.

    At first, all was well. The Last Graven King boasted that by adopting Fate's pet, he had made a plaything of Fate itself. He should have taken it as a warning then when, on the eve of his invasion of the Unsated Satrap's realm, he attempted to coerce a prediction of certain victory from his Oracle, only to hear Nerif quietly mutter, "It could go either way." No firmer statement could he force from Nerif's lips. Still, the King was confident in his army. The Satrapy was landlocked, poorly armed, and shut off from all possible allies. He took "It could go either way" to indicate that with tactical might on his side, there was little risk in his plan.

    Of course, we now know that he should have taken the sayer's words more literally. Even with careful study of the Annotated Annals of If, what happened on the field before the Unsated Satrap's palace is almost impossible to visualize. It appears that in the midst of the carnage, the battle began to bifurcate. At each pivotal moment, reality calved and broke into bits. Soldiers who staggered and fell in battle also stood sure-footed, forging onward to fight. Their minds also split; the warriors found themselves both dead and alive, existent and non-existent. Victory and defeat were partitioned, so that each separate outcome was experienced in simultaneity by both armies. The universe became a hall of mirrors, with all the mirrors endlessly shattering.

    The immediate effect on both parties was insanity. Unable to comprehend the state of being both triumphant and defeated, the Graven King's mind dispersed into motes of madness. The naive Satrap fared no better. The opposing paired realities continued to split and split again, echoing into infinite histories, all of them populated by a bewildered populace that soon lost the ability to feed, clothe, defend, or reproduce itself in the traditional manner.

    Long before the repercussions had played out, however, Cymurri's wary Advisors had seized Nerif, bound and gagged him, and launched him out of their universe at high speed on a dimensional barque, in the hopes of depositing him where he could do them no harm forever. It was, of course, too late for them. And may well be for us."
    Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.


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  • #2
    The "It could go either way" quote might be inspired by an old Greek story. Croesus, the King of Lydia, wanted to invade Persia, so he sent a humongously expensive gift of assorted shiny things to the Oracle at Delphi.

    The high priestess tripped balls on bayleaves, of all things, and cryptically responded with something along the lines of "If Croesus attacks the Persians, he will destroy a great army." So Croesus attacked Persia and his army got their collective ass thwomped.

    That last bit in the lore vaguely reminds me of Douglas Adams's writing.
    Originally posted by ChrisC
    - Fixed Bloodseeker getting slowed down by haste


    • #3
      Eh, not a fan of it, if only for the fact that it throws about a bunch of names and titles with absolutely zero context. It reads like gibberish.


      • #4
        And the best part is that none of them are ultimately of any relevance. His dimension is gone now, and has nothing to do with the Dota world.

        It's almost like they did it on purpose.
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        • #5
          Now this is what i call a loong loretext

          Originally posted by Phoenix.
          2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
          2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
          Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added

          Credits to Phoenix.


          • #6
            Total bait and switch, I feel tricked. It was like, "Ooooh look, we're actually explaining events and places in the world.", but then it was like, "FOOLED YOU. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING."

            "I'm all for moderation, but sometimes it seems, moderation itself can be a kind of extreme."


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              • #8
                Very interesting. To say the least.

                EDIT: Has Oracle been added to the megathread?
                Last edited by Isangman0; 11-20-2014, 04:47 AM.


                • #9
                  It would be nice if someone could simplify all this lore as I am not so good in English to understand this completely. For example, I can't imagine what hollow peak of Zealot's range looks like.


                  • #10
                    No, he's not in the thread yet. I'm waiting for the release.

                    But the short of his backstory is that he is from a parallel dimension filled with vast landscapes that are very fleetingly described, and he has the power of more or less causing fate to happen as he says it. Once he became aware of it... his dimension is now about a billion of alternate ones, and more or less does not exist anymore as it used to. His paradoxes render reality pretty much inhabitable for sentient life as we know it. All those names and titles are irrelevant now - he destroyed them.

                    And he's in our world now.

                    Golly gee.
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                    • #11
                      Lore-wise, how powerful is he?

                      My guess is somewhere below the Fundamentals, but above the Planeswalkers. Perhaps somewhere around current Elder Titan's level.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Isangman0 View Post
                        Lore-wise, how powerful is he?

                        My guess is somewhere below the Fundamentals, but above the Planeswalkers. Perhaps somewhere around current Elder Titan's level.
                        What does the scouter say about his power-level?

                        In all seriousness, though he is definitely one of the most powerful. His prophesies come true and I think it is because another version of himself in another dimension/timeline makes it happen by manipulating people into doing his dirty-work for information. He destroyed his own timeline completely or maybe that battle was what created the branching timelines he lives in.