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[Suggestion] Rewrite Queen of Pain's Lore to tie in with Lycanthrope?

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  • #31
    Dire/Radiant is only referred once I think, in the item description of one of Morph's items (Radiant * set). So yeah...

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    • #32
      Hero alignment is arbitrary.
      Some would argue that Vengeful Spirit should be Dire, because all she's doing is seeking revenge. But she's Radiant because she's a victim robbed of her birthright.
      Some would argue Meepo is a harmless enough guy, and should be Radiant. But he's Dire because he stole a gem that split his soul.

      None of them are strictly good or evil. It's all circumstance from their lore which defines their alignment.

      Hell, look at Morphling. He's Radiant and all he did was land on the earth and kill both sides of two warring armies.

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      • #33
        They should just remove the radiant/dire alignment from the hero selection screen imo.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Arxos View Post
          Really though especially if this were made so I will grow even more confused as to why Lycan is on the Dire side.

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          Mind you, I like the idea. I like it a lot, it's just that his lore currently isn't too Dire'ish, and especially if they make it so that the King of Slom and QoP are related, it'll make it even more apparant that his clan was fighting for a just cause, and should belong to the Radiant.
          Lycan does have the free ticket of inner beast, but if you just look at his quotes it's obvious that he largely controls his inner beast, he's not a slave to its power.
          Even if he's unaware that the reason the king became corrupt was QoP (because if he knew, he'd be on the Radiant for certain), I still think it makes the King corrupt to such a degree that he is definitely fighting for good. The only possible argument you can make at that point is that he only cares for revenge which has corrupted his other ideals, but then it's HELLO Vengeful Spirit, who only cares for revenge yet still sides with the good guys.
          Good points all around, but I think his Dire affiliation has more to do with the nature of his curse. Despite having good intentions and fighting for vengeance, his lycanthropy makes him murderous and bloodthirsty. Clinkz is a similar example; he used to be a valiant warrior who strove to defeat Maraxiform, but he was imbued with an unholy curse. Despite fighting for good, he's aligned with the Dire due to his physical nature.
          ◕_◕

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          • #35
            There's also the fact that Lycan is an abomination against nature, something you hear from the Radiant beast-types. It's highly unlikely that the likes of Sylla and Ursa would accept him into their ranks, so he's left an outcast.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Monsterlord View Post
              There's also the fact that Lycan is an abomination against nature, something you hear from the Radiant beast-types. It's highly unlikely that the likes of Sylla and Ursa would accept him into their ranks, so he's left an outcast.
              I'm going to screw with you right here and mention the fact that there are ally responses between Lycan and Syllabear. For example, Lycan associates himself as a shapeshifter, thus allowing him to gladly team up with someone like Sylla (and vice versa).
              You can argue the fact that it's done merely for the sake of gameplay, but I don't really argue with the "outcast" bit. In fact, I feel like the shapeshifters themselves are viewed as outcasts by the non-shapeshifters, and understand only each other.
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              • #37
                I'm going to screw with you right here and mention the fact that there are ally responses between Lycan and Syllabear. For example, Lycan associates himself as a shapeshifter, thus allowing him to gladly team up with someone like Sylla (and vice versa).
                You can argue the fact that it's done merely for the sake of gameplay, but I don't really argue with the "outcast" bit. In fact, I feel like the shapeshifters themselves are viewed as outcasts by the non-shapeshifters, and understand only each other.
                Nope. It's a gameplay thing.

                Kunkka and Tide have ally lines. KotL has lines towards Chaos Knight and Nightstalker. Roof greets Jakiro and Ogre, despite both of them wielding fire. Omniknight will speak to Chen, despite both being extremist religious fanatics, and Chaos Knight, who despises him. Slithice has lines for Slardar and Tide, despite warring against both the Leviathans and the Deep Ones.

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