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  • Rogue Knight

    Sven is the bastard son of a Vigil Knight, born of a Pallid Meranth, raised in the Shadeshore Ruins. With his father executed for violating the Vigil Codex, and his mother shunned by her wild race, Sven believes that honor is to be found in no social order--but only in himself. After tending his mother through a lingering death, he offered himself as a novice to the Vigil Knights, never revealing his identity. For thirteen years he studied in his father's school, mastering the rigid code that declared his existence an abomination. Then, on the day that should have been his In-Swearing, he seized the Outcast Blade, shattered the Sacred Helm, and burned the Codex in the Vigil's Holy Flame. He strode from Vigil Keep, forever solitary, following his private code to the last strict rune.

  • #2
    The Sacred Helm seems pretty self-explanatory as something relic belonging to the Vigil Knights, but what is the Outcast Blade and how did he get it?

    I'd assume that there were plenty of other people at his in-swearing, what did they do when he went nuts? Did he have to kill the other knights, or did they just let him walk out?
    Last edited by Otter; 09-11-2011, 10:15 AM.

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    • #3
      Too any names imo, he's a simple hero and I feel his story should be relatively uncomplicated and maybe a bit vague.

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      • #4
        Some elaboration on the Vigil Codex and on Sven's private code is also welcome.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lonever View Post
          Too any names imo, he's a simple hero and I feel his story should be relatively uncomplicated and maybe a bit vague.
          There are enough vague stories already. I'm glad to see all those names because it shows that VALVe is working on an elaborated lore.
          OT: Thumbs up. Enough as an origin story and lots to build upon in future.

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          • #6
            +1 to shostakovich about giving a brief overview of the Vigil Codex and the code of conduct (at least a general one).

            And a big +1 to Otter as well, regarding the background story of the Outcast Blade. I believe it has the perfect name for it to be a relevant part to the story, I pictured the following:

            The Outcast Blade is actually Sven's father sword, took from him at the moment of his death and kept by the Vigil Knights as a shameful token of what awaits to those who deviate from the code: death and disgrace. This blade works as the exact antithesis of the Sacred Helm: A relic that belonged to the founder of the Vigil Knights Order, and is obviously held in great respect by its members.

            Thus Sven, upon setting eyes on the only remaining keepsake from his father, realizes that the time for getting even has come, and shows his hatred towards the order by shattering its most representative relic, and probably killing a lot of other knights trying to stop him.

            I think this would actually work in several ways, as:

            1- It fits the name perfectly (Outcast Blade, Sven's father was deemed an outcast by disgracing the code)
            2- Gives Sven a believable reason to seize it.
            3- It makes for a cool symbolism, by being the Outcast Blade (considered a shameful reminder of what happens to those who disobey the code) the weapon used to destroy the Sacred Helm (a Relic representative of the virtues of the Vigil Knights) by none other than the son of the original owner (who has decided to abide by his own code of conduct over the one that deemed his father a traitor).

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            • #7
              Can't wait for the first good "forever alone" images XD.

              I love the story. It's exactly the Rogue Knight element I hoped for, Sven makes his own law. Let's hope Omniknight belongs to that order of the Vigil Knights.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Chairraider View Post
                Let's hope Omniknight belongs to that order of the Vigil Knights.
                That would be interesting.
                Always set the trail, Never follow the path!

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                • #9
                  Hmmm he went rogue but is still allowed for the same team... that's something that struck me ass odd somehow.... why does he still fight for the radiant?

                  Omni and Chen being vigil knights would be great though.

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                  • #10
                    Maybe the Vigil Knights Order is not exactly alligned with the Radiant, even though they could proclame to be "honorable and sacred". From reading this backstory, I get the impression that the Vigil Knights are a conservative, close-minded and probably corrupted order (similar to the Protoss Conclave of Starcraft 1), whereas the Radiant are a faction or group selflessly battling for all living entities and the world itself. Sven relinquishes the former, and joins the latter.

                    I have to admit that even still, a real motivation is still lacking. He might as well just roam the land, only caring about himself, not interested in helping the "good guys" in the upcoming conflict. Perhaps his mother? She made him promise to protect her homeland? It would help to know what a Pallid Meranth is, though.

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                    • #11
                      True, but a promise to his mom would be a good idea indeed.

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                      • #12
                        I don't really like the ending.

                        --following his private code to the last strict rune.
                        so first he hates "rigid codes" and social orders but then creates one for himself? I don't really like the point that sven follows a large private code. Perhaps his private code has just one rune, "My Honor is my Life"

                        He strode from Vigil Keep, forever solitary, following his private code with one simple rune, "My Honor is My Life".
                        would be more powerful and keeping in with the inspiration for the lore.
                        Last edited by RoyalWave; 10-25-2011, 01:48 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jenova- View Post
                          +1 to shostakovich about giving a brief overview of the Vigil Codex and the code of conduct (at least a general one).

                          And a big +1 to Otter as well, regarding the background story of the Outcast Blade. I believe it has the perfect name for it to be a relevant part to the story, I pictured the following:

                          The Outcast Blade is actually Sven's father sword, took from him at the moment of his death and kept by the Vigil Knights as a shameful token of what awaits to those who deviate from the code: death and disgrace. This blade works as the exact antithesis of the Sacred Helm: A relic that belonged to the founder of the Vigil Knights Order, and is obviously held in great respect by its members.

                          Thus Sven, upon setting eyes on the only remaining keepsake from his father, realizes that the time for getting even has come, and shows his hatred towards the order by shattering its most representative relic, and probably killing a lot of other knights trying to stop him.

                          I think this would actually work in several ways, as:

                          1- It fits the name perfectly (Outcast Blade, Sven's father was deemed an outcast by disgracing the code)
                          2- Gives Sven a believable reason to seize it.
                          3- It makes for a cool symbolism, by being the Outcast Blade (considered a shameful reminder of what happens to those who disobey the code) the weapon used to destroy the Sacred Helm (a Relic representative of the virtues of the Vigil Knights) by none other than the son of the original owner (who has decided to abide by his own code of conduct over the one that deemed his father a traitor).
                          Sven shouldn't have shattered the relic because of hatred, that would contradict with him being on the Radiant side. I think it should be that he destroyed the relic because he wanted to free the Vigil Knights of their conservative thinking because Sven believes that there is no exact definition of good and evil, rather one must discover what really is good and evil in his own merit just like he did.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sixx View Post
                            Sven shouldn't have shattered the relic because of hatred, that would contradict with him being on the Radiant side. I think it should be that he destroyed the relic because he wanted to free the Vigil Knights of their conservative thinking because Sven believes that there is no exact definition of good and evil, rather one must discover what really is good and evil in his own merit just like he did.
                            It would be more interesting and create a new layer on the lore which is a good thing

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