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  • Originally posted by erik-the-red View Post
    Did you notice that I said, "I agree that given the differences in how accounts are treated by players between the games, account restrictions have more bite in League than DotA 2. Fair point"? How do I refute what I agree with? Seriously, use your brain.
    That's why I said your posts are contradicting.
    Which of your arguments have I not refuted?
    My post was an answer to that post. See it as a misunderstanding. No need to be ad hominem.

    And do you realize that under your reasoning, the system we have is totally useless because I can just smurf? Do you realize this?
    Yes I realize. I was pointing out why Tribunal works better in LoL than in Dota 2. If you can come up with solutions to tie Dota 2 players to a single account I'd be grateful.

    Jesus. My signature says "We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2." Keywords: "player review", "like Overwatch." I am not saying we should take a carbon copy of Tribunal or Overwatch for DotA 2. I said we need a player review system of which Overwatch is an example in another game.

    So once again, you are arguing against something that I am not arguing for.
    Then propose your system properly. Because else I won't be able to support it.
    James "2GD" Harding's career as a Dota 2 host on Valve events
    * 25.02.16 - † 26.02.16
    Spoiler: 


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    • Originally posted by ischtar View Post
      Are the rumours true that icefrog will sit down with Buny at the end of the year to go over the Bug List Thread and declares what are bugs and what is intended?
      lol
      ψ RAISE YOUR PITCHFORKS ψ
      Valve's TO DO LIST (I see you guys keep forgetting so I made one for you):
      - Viper remodel - Slardar remodel - Pit Lord
      - Manila Compendium - New UI - 6.88 (a real patch this time)

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      • Originally posted by Lion. View Post
        lol


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        • Originally posted by GermanViet View Post
          That's why I said your posts are contradicting.

          My post was an answer to that post. See it as a misunderstanding. No need to be ad hominem.
          This perfectly illustrates how bad you are at making connections. There shouldn't be any "misunderstanding:" logically, I can't refute something I agree with, yet it took you three posts to realize this. Even when I tell you that I agree with you and that you have made a fair point, you don't acknowledge this and act as if I'm being hostile to you. Then you don't even have the decency to apologize for your "misunderstanding."

          Yes I realize. I was pointing out why Tribunal works better in LoL than in Dota 2. If you can come up with solutions to tie Dota 2 players to a single account I'd be grateful.
          If you realize this, then you should also realize that you aren't arguing against player review in DotA 2; you're arguing against any form of punishment system in DotA 2.

          Then propose your system properly. Because else I won't be able to support it.
          My signature is clear: "We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding." I did not say "We need to make a carbon copy of Tribunal." It is not my fault that your reading comprehension is poor and that you assumed I said something that I didn't.
          We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding.



          merci fenix

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          • Originally posted by Phoenix. View Post
            Did someone say beauty?

            who is dis. i want to know.
            Credits to Phoenix.

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            • Let the gifs rise, i double dare you :


              Originally posted by Phoenix.
              2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
              2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
              Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


              Credits to Phoenix.

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              • ok ok

                PAS HALL OF FAME
                Spoiler: 

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                • Originally posted by Phoenix. View Post
                  Did someone say beauty?

                  Do you have a lot of hot female gifs on your PC which you fap to? Provide them or gay.
                  Originally posted by katsaroulhs
                  Also, I am laughing so hard because you people actually expected smth better from Valve. Some of you have been here for years. Some of us have been here from the beta, watching this mess of a game getting developed. And you STILL are surprised when you are fed shit. [...]

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                  • I am gonna watch from the sidelines this time. I wanna see how much bullshit can viet fit in one post :3
                    Spoiler: 

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                    • Its all dance now:


                      Originally posted by Phoenix.
                      2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
                      2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
                      Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


                      Credits to Phoenix.

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                      • Originally posted by erik-the-red View Post
                        This perfectly illustrates how bad you are at making connections. There shouldn't be any "misunderstanding:" logically, I can't refute something I agree with, yet it took you three posts to realize this. Even when I tell you that I agree with you and that you have made a fair point, you don't acknowledge this and act as if I'm being hostile to you. Then you don't even have the decency to apologize for your "misunderstanding."
                        Your posts are contradicting. You cannot act as if you have refuted everything and simultaneously say before that "I agree". If you say "Which of your arguments have I not refuted?" I will give you an answer. Are you really criticizing me for that?
                        You tell me to "use my brain", call me a Valve Knight and put words into my mouth ("unsolvable problems"). If I didn't say any of that don't interpret it however you think.
                        This is truly pathetic. Are we really going to argue about this? I'm certainly not going to apologize to you.

                        If you realize this, then you should also realize that you aren't arguing against player review in DotA 2; you're arguing against any form of punishment system in DotA 2.
                        It has some relevancy because the punishment in Dota 2 and LoL are entirely different. I pointed out why it works in LoL so well but it wouldn't work as well in Dota 2. If someone were to review punishment the punishment you received has to be longer since it takes time to review. Longer punishment means players are more likely to abandon their old account. And as you know they will easily make a new account. I know you said they can already make a new account now. But shorter punishment (in the past 16, now 5 LPQ games) prevents many players from immediately making a new account.

                        My signature is clear: "We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding." I did not say "We need to make a carbon copy of Tribunal." It is not my fault that your reading comprehension is poor and that you assumed I said something that I didn't.
                        "Then propose your system properly. Because else I won't be able to support it."
                        I'm still unsure. Is that everything? That's a summary. That's not how you start a project.
                        Because Tribunal can be summed up exactly like that and as you know I don't support that and you said you aren't suggesting that as well so I have no idea what exactly you are looking for.
                        James "2GD" Harding's career as a Dota 2 host on Valve events
                        * 25.02.16 - † 26.02.16
                        Spoiler: 


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                        • Originally posted by Phoenix.
                          2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
                          2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
                          Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


                          Credits to Phoenix.

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                          • can you stop this shit already? no one cares. this is pas. chat thru PMs.
                            giff more gif
                            Drow is love, Drow is life. I fap every day.

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                            • We will get a nice patch soon™

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                              • Originally posted by GermanViet View Post
                                Your posts are contradicting. You cannot act as if you have refuted everything and simultaneously say before that "I agree". If you say "Which of your arguments have I not refuted?" I will give you an answer. Are you really criticizing me for that?
                                I am criticizing you for not realizing how stupid it is to ask me to refute a point that I agree with. You didn't even THINK whether it makes any sense at all to ask that. And then you claim that I "contradicted" myself and that this led to your "misunderstanding."

                                You made a dumb request. It happens. We all do stupid shit. Have the decency to admit that you made a dumb request.

                                It has some relevancy because the punishment in Dota 2 and LoL are entirely different. I pointed out why it works in LoL so well but it wouldn't work as well in Dota 2. If someone were to review punishment the punishment you received has to be longer since it takes time to review. Longer punishment means players are more likely to abandon their old account. And as you know they will easily make a new account. I know you said they can already make a new account now. But shorter punishment (in the past 16, now 5 LPQ games) prevents many players from immediately making a new account.
                                So you're actually trying to argue that short punishments are a good thing in DotA 2 because they deter people from smurfing?

                                I'm still unsure. Is that everything? That's a summary. That's not how you start a project.
                                Because Tribunal can be summed up exactly like that and as you know I don't support that and you said you aren't suggesting that as well so I have no idea what exactly you are looking for.
                                I take responsibility when I don't express myself clearly. I take no responsibility if you choose to deliberately misread what I wrote. I never said, "let's do a carbon copy of Tribunal." If you think "We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2" means "let's copy Tribunal 100%," then you need to learn how to read better.

                                As for starting a project, we can definitely START with Tribunal or Overwatch and then we can make CHANGES to punishment length, making parts of team chat available, etc. DotA 2 isn't pay-to-play like CS:GO, and it isn't pay-to-unlock like League. Of course a 100% copy won't work. I'm happy to talk about what changes need to be made for the system to work.
                                We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding.



                                merci fenix

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