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  • Originally posted by katsaroulhs View Post
    Concede is needed.
    It's literally the worst part of SMITE IMO. When people get killed a few times they just say bg and start a surrender vote
    If the vote doesn't go through they'll just start feeding. It's a fucking nightmare.

    Plus in dota the comeback possibility is higher than in any other moba. If people just started surrendering after 30 minutes because they're 20 kills behind we'd miss out on all sorts of epic comeback potentials.
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    • Originally posted by <>< View Post
      It's literally the worst part of SMITE IMO. When people get killed a few times they just say bg and start a surrender vote
      If the vote doesn't go through they'll just start feeding. It's a fucking nightmare.

      Plus in dota the comeback possibility is higher than in any other moba. If people just started surrendering after 30 minutes because they're 20 kills behind we'd miss out on all sorts of epic comeback potentials.
      Fuck your comeback possibility. If the majority wants to bail, I am not gonna stay in for that one retard who thinks that because he got a kill after 25 mins a comeback is possible. If the 4/5 want to concede, it should be an option. With certain rules, but still an option.
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      • Originally posted by katsaroulhs View Post
        Fuck your comeback possibility. If the majority wants to bail, I am not gonna stay in for that one retard who thinks that because he got a kill after 25 mins a comeback is possible. If the 4/5 want to concede, it should be an option. With certain rules, but still an option.
        I completely 100% disagree with your opinion. I've witnessed / been involved in several comebacks during my mere 1000 games of dota 2 and i'd never trade that possibility away for the option to surrender because you just don't feel like trying anymore.
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        • You don't have the right to disagree with the MAJORITY. To put it simply, the rest don't care.
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          • I once (literally) cameback after getting megacreep'd. Was that awesome? Fuck yes. I also once played a game that lasted over 100 minutes because the enemy 4-stack of fucking Russians dicked around farming rapiers for 60 minutes instead of finishing the game. Was that awesome? Fuck no.

            These are extremes. More generally, my feeling is that fountain should be buffed more to discourage fountain farming.
            We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding.



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            • I think we should have a surrender ability, but only if all 10 players agree, if one declines, game goes on. I don't see why we should force the game to go on when everyone involved has shown they don't want that to happen.

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              • Originally posted by katsaroulhs View Post
                You don't have the right to disagree with the MAJORITY. To put it simply, the rest don't care.
                The point is not being against the majority in a single case, the point is the entire change of attitude coming with the possibility to surrender. 4/5 people might want to surrender, but only because the option is there. Without the option they'd just play on and potentially win the game. The amount of times where people REALLY have to surrender because they game is basically over is quite rare.
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                • Originally posted by Superimposed View Post
                  I think we should have a surrender ability, but only if all 10 players agree, if one declines, game goes on. I don't see why we should force the game to go on when everyone involved has shown they don't want that to happen.
                  You mean 4 players. The enemy team has no say in it. But it won't happen because the dota 2 community is wannabe "hardcore".
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                  • Originally posted by Kryil- View Post
                    The point is not being against the majority in a single case, the point is the entire change of attitude coming with the possibility to surrender. 4/5 people might want to surrender, but only because the option is there. Without the option they'd just play on and potentially win the game. The amount of times where people REALLY have to surrender because they game is basically over is quite rare.
                    Not really. Without the option some will leave and the others will either start trolling, or simply go afk. I am talking about dire situations, where the spirit of the team has been shattered.
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                    • Originally posted by <>< View Post
                      If the vote doesn't go through they'll just start feeding. It's a fucking nightmare.
                      This. If one guy wants a concede he can force his team by feeding, talking negatively, not participating in fights or whatever.
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                      • Originally posted by katsaroulhs View Post
                        Not really. Without the option some will leave and the others will either start trolling, or simply go afk. I am talking about dire situations, where the spirit of the team has been shattered.
                        Pretty much this. Pick your poison. If your team is behind,

                        Without concede
                        Team chat: FUCK YOU NOOB FEEDING SHITS (repeat until game ends)

                        With concede
                        Team chat: gg we lost boys
                        We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding.



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                        • Originally posted by GermanViet View Post
                          This. If one guy wants a concede he can force his team by feeding, talking negatively, not participating in fights or whatever.
                          Oh come on, you act like the "talking negatively" part doesn't already happen without a concede. I frequently choose to split push rather than participate in fights we can't win. Hell, I did that in my game last night and got flamed by two teammates for it. Like it's a great idea to teamfight against Undying + WW + Tusk when your lone AoE is WD.
                          We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding.



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                          • Do you guys honestly think it gets worse with a vote-concede?

                            What's different to now? 5min into the game, someone got killed twice: "gg noobs" and starts feeding. With concede he would vote it and 3-4 would vote no, same shit.
                            Except the retarded fountain farming stops.

                            Ofcourse it would need rules. Like only possible if you are X behind in networth/kills/XP/whatever and you can only vote every 5min or something so you don't get spammed.

                            Stuff like that.
                            Originally posted by katsaroulhs
                            Also, I am laughing so hard because you people actually expected smth better from Valve. Some of you have been here for years. Some of us have been here from the beta, watching this mess of a game getting developed. And you STILL are surprised when you are fed shit. [...]

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                            • Originally posted by katsaroulhs View Post
                              he enemy team has no say in it.
                              Yes, they do. All players have a right to play a normal game, I'm pretty sure that there are some people who would get annoyed if the enemy keeps surrendering.

                              Let's say you get into a game, and the enemy surrenders in a few mins, that would be quite annoying, especially for people who only play a single game or two.

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                              • no concede!!! if that gets in doto forget about normal games
                                Minecraft >>> dota 2

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