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  • Originally posted by Pandamonium View Post
    And why do you think there are many people wanting to play a lost game?
    In DotA you were free to leave a game without any abandon. And even in Dota 2 you're free to leave a game when someone already left. Just looking at how many players are still playing against fed enemies although they are allowed to leave and are even in the minority (thanks to leaver), tells me that there are enough people who still like to play even when they're seeing that they only have a small or no chance to win the game.

    Originally posted by Pandamonium View Post
    Why not let all beta testers vote on the implementation of forfeit feature? Then no one can cry since it was a majority decision.
    If we had everything by majority decision, then nobody would play the game in the end. It's also undemocratic.
    Think about it.

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    • i am for a forfeit button... it takes a long time to finish a game sometimes that most people know is unwinnable.

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      • Originally posted by dommas View Post
        im against a forfeit system.

        had a good example today: we were back 20 to around 40 kills and we still turned the game. was fucking awesome and thats what dota is about. people tend to surrender much too fast. and you also have to think about the rank system which is not implemented yet in the beta. games will get better with it and the possibility to turn a game around will even increase with a more balanced skill level of players in a game.
        i support a forfeit system.

        had a good example today: a fed Spectre kept rampage the enemy team, from the 20 min mark, so my veno with his hood/meka was a freekill for her
        our carry failed hard, even our supporters had better items and stats
        we just wasted 40 mins because one of our teammate did not want to forefeit (instead he left nearly at the end)

        caution: this is not a ture story, but silmilar games happened/happens

        I'm kinda sure there will be such a function in dota 2

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        • Originally posted by ggPeti View Post
          But what does a poll achieve? We're not here to just decide by vote and call it a day. Actually we aren't deciding anything. The best we can do is to state our opinions and support them with reasoning, confront our ideas intelligently so as to achieve some kind of conclusion or at least give valuable insights the chance to be shared.

          A bit more clearly: I'm not interested in anyone's opinion if they want ff or not. I'm interested in the reasons, and out to give mine.
          And I'm interested in clear numbers.

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          • Originally posted by akaHideinlight View Post
            What are people doing currently?
            People are leaving and afking, because there's no other way to leave legitimately. Leaver protection and Concede goes hand to hand.

            Implement concede, and you can implement a stricter penalty to leaving, it gives the team more power to keep a person playing. Simple as that!
            What we have now is a non functioning system, because it's missing the parts that makes it work.
            The part that make it work is the matchmaking system, not forfeit. Forfeit is just a workaround.

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            • Originally posted by MOJIOKO View Post
              And I'm interested in clear numbers.
              Then you shouldn't open a poll, because it wouldn't be representative.

              Also that what ValeN said (actually I said it ~50 pages before but, anyway^^)

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              • I'm down for a CC vote.

                I think this game can be much more unforgiving in terms of the early game. If you fall off you gonna fall off hard.

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                • Originally posted by Typhox View Post
                  Then you shouldn't open a poll, because it wouldn't be representative.

                  Also that what ValeN said (actually I said it ~50 pages before but, anyway^^)
                  It may not be 100% objective but still it shows some interesting numbers.

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                  • Originally posted by Typhox View Post
                    Then you shouldn't open a poll, because it wouldn't be representative.
                    your correct, if this poll would be in the beta forums.

                    a poll would, however, be representative if it was integrated into the game client (e.g. on startup of dota2, before you can play your first game for the day, youll get the option to vote on todays poll if you havent voted on it already)
                    in these daily(or weekly/monthly) polls, there could be anything from voting for/against a forfeit feature to which hero you want to be implemented next... would be a great addition to the community-publisher interaction, because i think the vast majority of people in the beta doesnt care(or doesnt even know about) these beta forums.

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                    • We need it. It sucks having to sit there while enemy team refuses to push even though they are up by 40 kills. Then i get an abandoment cause i sit at fountain. It just plain stupid.

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                      • in my opinion I do not want to see a forfeit function. I like it the way it is now and it makes the game funnier to play.

                        For example if we had an option to forfeit there would be alot of trolls that would just stay in fountain or feed so u can concede and get a new game, even tho there is a chance they still could win. and it is those close games that are funniest to play. The way it is now is great because then they will be forced to keep playing and the games often gets very close. and if they really don't want to play anymore then they could leave and get punished it's their choice.

                        So please don't add a forfeit function

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                        • We need a forfeit function.


                          Not all brazilians are assholes...

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                          • If you dont want to concede you are free to not to.
                            Are you retarded ?
                            Why can't you understand the simpe fact that CONCEDE NEEDS 4/5 OR 5/5 VOTES TO PASS.
                            IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE PLAYING YOU CAN VOTE NO TO CONCEDE.

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                            • Originally posted by Pandamonium View Post
                              a poll would, however, be representative if it was integrated into the game client (e.g. on startup of dota2, before you can play your first game for the day, youll get the option to vote on todays poll if you havent voted on it already)
                              in these daily(or weekly/monthly) polls, there could be anything from voting for/against a forfeit feature to which hero you want to be implemented next... would be a great addition to the community-publisher interaction, because i think the vast majority of people in the beta doesnt care(or doesnt even know about) these beta forums.
                              Yes, I agree with you.

                              However, it would still be not representative...
                              You can only make it representative if you choose the participants of the poll yourself.

                              Originally posted by MOJIOKO View Post
                              It may not be 100% objective but still it shows some interesting numbers.
                              You can find interesting numbers earlier in this thread (if that image didn't get deleted in the meantime)
                              Last edited by Typhox; 01-18-2012, 03:19 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by horoz View Post
                                If you dont want to concede you are free to not to.
                                Are you retarded ?
                                Why can't you understand the simpe fact that CONCEDE NEEDS 4/5 OR 5/5 VOTES TO PASS.
                                IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE PLAYING YOU CAN VOTE NO TO CONCEDE.
                                well if we take hon for example, if u need 5/5 to concede and 1 presses no then often there will be a player just staying at base until the fifth player also concedes which ruins games. happend so often in HoN or they would just base camp or feed until you need 4.

                                the forfeit function makes players give up to easy on gaes that aren't over just cause it goes bad for them.

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