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  • Lost MMR points after game that was instantly abandoned by teammate

    Just was looking at my match history and I lost 25 MMR from a game that was not supposed to have stats recorded. A player on my team abandoned before picks were done, I ended up jacking around in game for a couple of minutes and then left. I did die during this time, but well after it said no stats would be recorded.

    In my match history it says loss and -25 points.

    Match ID: 502688636

  • #2
    Was he your party member by any chance?
    http://store.steampowered.com/news/12341/

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    - Abandonment in a ranked match before first blood will now count as a loss for the abandoner and all party members. (MMR will decrease.) For all other players in the game, the match will not be scored. After first blood, the same rules apply as before: the match will be scored for all players. The abandoner will always receive a loss, but all other players will be scored a win/loss according to the actual match outcome

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    • #3
      BUMP. this happened to me too and I was playing as a solo q.
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      • #4
        <snip> Flame removed. Are you kidding me? Physicaque tried to help and asked a valid question. Behave. Warning.
        Last edited by Kryil-; 02-06-2014, 10:40 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Physicaque View Post
          Was he your party member by any chance?
          http://store.steampowered.com/news/12341/

          Community
          - Abandonment in a ranked match before first blood will now count as a loss for the abandoner and all party members. (MMR will decrease.) For all other players in the game, the match will not be scored. After first blood, the same rules apply as before: the match will be scored for all players. The abandoner will always receive a loss, but all other players will be scored a win/loss according to the actual match outcome

          No, I was in solo queue.

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          • #6
            I'm glad they are doing this, but they need to find a way to lessen the effects of bad people's actions on innocent players.

            All this does is try to encourage bad players to find better players to play with. While I suppose that is noble, it doesn't protect anyone that actually needs protecting. It's fine, I just want more.
            I will mercilessly add to my ignore list anyone that makes an incredibly annoying signature.

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            • #7
              Same thing happened to me.

              Solo queue. Person on my team afks beginning of the game. Other team kept unpausing. Abandon said "No stats will be recorded". Still lost -25???? WHY?

              Why did I lose -25 rank??? VALVE????
              Last edited by eris; 02-06-2014, 01:45 PM. Reason: fucking valve

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              • #8
                I found solo RMM, 1 abandonment before firstblood, then I played 2vs2 for a while and managed to get 3 kills 0 deaths, but my only teammate left so i quit too and somehow my MMR gone down 25 points. Match ID: 505724968
                Chinese Safe gaming => Everyone skills are buffed => Fast game 5 mans => Rat doto => nerf rat doto, buff moar => combat are scary back to chinese style :3

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                • #9
                  Same thing happened to me. Was solo queueing, someone abandoned before first blood, text clearly said MMR would NOT be updated, but I lost 25 MMR. Match ID: 508089747

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Physicaque View Post

                    Community
                    - Abandonment in a ranked match before first blood will now count as a loss for the abandoner and all party members. (MMR will decrease.) For all other players in the game, the match will not be scored. After first blood, the same rules apply as before: the match will be scored for all players. The abandoner will always receive a loss, but all other players will be scored a win/loss according to the actual match outcome

                    Can someone explain me this?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by django28 View Post
                      Can someone explain me this?
                      They revamed the abandonment system a bit.
                      a) If someone abandons before firstblood, he and all players in his team (players that queued with him, not the entire Radiant/Dire side) will receive an abandon and a loss. For all other players, the game wont count.
                      b) The same is true after first blood but the game will count.
                      However, it seems that pre-FB abandons now affect all players in the game and we already reported that to Valve.
                      If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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                      • #12
                        Does this mean I can't dodge at the loading screen (before hero selection) anymore?
                        We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding.



                        merci fenix

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by erik-the-red View Post
                          Does this mean I can't dodge at the loading screen (before hero selection) anymore?

                          It seems so atm. but im not a 100% sure on wether or not it is intended to work that way. (if this is the case, its a little stupid but what ever)
                          If you find spelling errors, you are free to take them.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jan2011 View Post
                            It seems so atm. but im not a 100% sure on wether or not it is intended to work that way. (if this is the case, its a little stupid but what ever)
                            I can understand penalizing people who have chosen their heroes and then abandoned, but come on, Valve - if we're still at the loading screen, and I see that I'm teamed up with someone I know is an asshole, why shouldn't I be allowed to leave?
                            We need a player review system like Overwatch for DotA 2. Get real people to judge communication abuse, intentional skill abuse, and intentional feeding.



                            merci fenix

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                            • #15
                              This is definitely not working as intended. The patch notes that were quoted are the intention. The game should not count, if an abandon happens before first blood, except for the guy who abandoned (and his party), for whom it should count as a loss.

                              Sorry about this. We'll get this fixed soon.

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