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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jan2011 View Post
    Ehm guys one thing: Dota2 mod tools are source 2 based while your normal dota2 is still source 1 game. So you download the whole Game again but with a whole new engine
    maybe engine update? and Dota2 now is Source2 game
    dota2russia.pro - Community site for high skills Russian Dota2 players (Open is coming soon!)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Typhox View Post
      You clearly have no clue how computers work, so I tell you:

      - When you start a program, the software has to be loaded into the RAM first.
      - To be able to load something into the RAM it has to be loaded from the HDD first.
      => If the HDD is the bottleneck, it doesn't matter how fast your RAM is, because it will take ages to get the files from the HDD into your RAM.
      - Programs don't just load files when they start, they also often load (and store files) during the entire duration. Examples for this are the Firefox-Browser-Cache, Loading of settings for various programs (which can take endless for Firefox for example), loading of Assets and Resources (which takes ages on the Gigabytes of data in Dota 2), and processing files (in case of my Dev-Tools that consist out of 100 000s of tiny files).
      - In Addition to reading and writing speed, a bottleneck can also be the FileSystem itself and access to it. Again, if the filesystem is on the HDD while your OS is on your SSD, there will be pretty much no speed improvements in accessing any files on your HDD, because the NTFS fileindex is on the HDD and NOT in your OS directory.

      Oh the adhominem. Its so strong with this one. Maybe you have a narcissistic disorder.

      When I am talking about index that refers to Windows explorer you mofo its a function in your OS.
      When we are talking about seek times, we are referring to your OS referencing your HDD files then your HDD attempting to find these files by reading the disk. As it is your OS that controls your memory. If I want to open a file, the OS has to go find that file then it has to effectively compile it, so there will still be an increase in speed, however there will still be a delay for it to find the actual data dependent on how far apart the data is written. (Gather all the parts of the files that is stored on the disk, since its not always in a nice neat block). The OS is what controls this thus having your OS on the SSD will reduce seek times. This is part of the app opening time.
      In addition YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER STORE APPLICATIONS THAT WRITE TEMPORARY FILES REGULARLY ON YOUR SSD. OR IF YOU DO You SHOULD REFERENCE THE TEMPORARY CACHE FILES/STORED FILES TO YOUR HDD. OTHERWISE YOU WILL DRAMATICALLY DECREASE YOUR SSD's life (This is not always the case with DRAM based SSD's). Most game's applications do not do this excessively or have very little need for this and a lot of this can be pushed onto the RAM.
      Also I just loaded Dota2 on my crappy hardrive it took 20 seconds to initialize and 15 seconds to load into game. "Ages".


      So as I said having your OS on your SSD will improve app launch times slightly, and smoothen your whole system.
      Having an application on your SSD will further increase application launch time, however it will have almost 0 effect on the performance of gaming , as games rarely access the drive while running.



      on your point about firefox etc, no one install browsers anymore on SSD's. Since modern browsers your more likely going to have slow loading times due to the server buffering, rather than your Hardrive.

      Derp, you don't have to store all your applications on your SSD either. Also completely filling your SSD will be bad for its life, will dramatically decrease its speeds. Will make updating your OS difficult.

      If you have this much of a problem buy a hybrid SSHD they're almost as cheap as HDD's and almost as fast as SSD's
      Last edited by Crowfeather; 08-07-2014, 10:09 AM.
      Originally posted by Typhox
      Nope. Windows Explorer is not a database
      Take a look into the mirror! You think you are completely unfailable. With your limited knowledge, you think that you know more than someone who is very deep in the matter/an expert.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dota2russia.pro View Post
        maybe engine update? and Dota2 now is Source2 game
        eh not yet only the tools are and they require the source 2 game to run b4 you are even able to use them
        If you find spelling errors, you are free to take them.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jan2011 View Post
          Ehm guys one thing: Dota2 mod tools are source 2 based while your normal dota2 is still source 1 game. So you download the whole Game again but with a whole new engine
          Originally posted by Jan2011 View Post
          eh not yet only the tools are and they require the source 2 game to run b4 you are even able to use them


          I guess soon stable Dota2 client will be on Source2, because you can see it here:

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            Oh the adhominem. Its so strong with this one. Maybe you have a narcissistic disorder.
            Aha. Saying "you have no clue" is now the same as calling you a motherfucker and saying you'd have a narcisstic disorder?
            wtf!!

            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            When I am talking about index that refers to Windows explorer you mofo its a function in your OS.
            Oh you were talking about the Explorer? Nice for you. I wasn't. So it doesn't matter.

            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            When we are talking about seek times, we are referring to your OS referencing your HDD files then your HDD attempting to find these files by reading the disk. As it is your OS that controls your memory. If I want to open a file, the OS has to go find that file then it has to effectively compile it, so there will still be an increase in speed, however there will still be a delay for it to find the actual data dependent on how far apart the data is written. (Gather all the parts of the files that is stored on the disk, since its not always in a nice neat block). The OS is what controls this thus having your OS on the SSD will reduce seek times. This is part of the app opening time.
            Not quite right. Yes, the few MB of your NTFS driver indeed localize that file. But it is being localized on the HDD, NOT from the memory of the SSD. The OS does NOT have any handle nor index to that file stored on the SSD. That means, to find where the data of the file is stored, it has to go through the File System on the HDD, using seek operations to various places until it finds your multiple file fragments. THESE are very slow on HDDs though, that's why you have to defragment them from time to time. On an SSD it doesn't matter if two sets of data are stored right next to each other or you have to seek through the entire disk to find the other data. The entire file index is being stored on the HDD, so having your OS on your SSD won't make any application on the HDD start faster in that aspect (but in a different aspect: Applications use a lot of Windows Library files that need to be loaded, so those can be loaded a lot faster).

            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            In addition YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER STORE APPLICATIONS THAT WRITE TEMPORARY FILES REGULARLY ON YOUR SSD. OR IF YOU DO You SHOULD REFERENCE THE TEMPORARY CACHE FILES/STORED FILES TO YOUR HDD. OTHERWISE YOU WILL DRAMATICALLY DECREASE YOUR SSD's life (This is not always the case with DRAM based SSD's).
            You are believing in myths. My SSD lives for 3 years already with VERY EXCESSIVE use. It doesn't have any issues. In fact, what you state is a myth based on one single memory manufacturer who once had this issue.
            Apart from this, saying you should install your OS on your SSD counters your own arguments since it includes various directories for temporary files.
            In fact, even if I installed Firefox on my HDD, it would still store all of its cache files on the %appdata% directory on the SSD.
            So if you really believe in your argument, you should definitely NOT install your OS on the SSD.

            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            Most game's applications do not do this excessively or have very little need for this and a lot of this can be pushed onto the RAM.
            To be pushed on the RAM it requires the data to be read from the Drive first. Dota 2 weighs 10 GB. It's pretty obvious that it won't have all those 10 GB stored in RAM (especially since it would drastically increase starting times).

            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            Also I just loaded Dota2 on my crappy hardrive it took 20 seconds to initialize and 15 seconds to load into game. "Ages".
            Let me guess: On low graphic settings? It obviously makes a big difference whether you're loading 1000 images of 500 KB per file, or 1000 images of 50 KB per file.
            And yes, since I am often testing in Dota 2 and starting the game up to 50 times per day on days where I am testing, Even 1 second starting time reduction feels already so much better.

            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            So as I said having your OS on your SSD will improve app launch times slightly, and smoothen your whole system.
            Having an application on your SSD will further increase application launch time, however it will have almost 0 effect on the performance of gaming , as games rarely access the drive while running.
            So everything I did was completely fine. Nice. Why even reply then?

            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            on your point about firefox etc, no one install browsers anymore on SSD's. Since modern browsers your more likely going to have slow loading times due to the server buffering, rather than your Hardrive.
            I don't care about loading speed of websites. I simply don't want to have to wait 30 seconds for Firefox to start. I want to click on the button and be instantly able to use it.

            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            Derp, you don't have to store all your applications on your SSD either. Also completely filling your SSD will be bad for its life, will dramatically decrease its speeds. Will make updating your OS difficult.
            All the tiny applications don't even fill 500 MB so they don't really matter. And I need the big applications like Cinema 4D, Photoshop and Maya to start quickly.

            Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
            If you have this much of a problem buy a hybrid SSHD they're almost as cheap as HDD's and almost as fast as SSD's
            I own a Hybrid Drive in my laptop
            Last edited by Typhox; 08-07-2014, 11:01 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Typhox View Post
              Aha. Saying "you have no clue" is now the same as calling you a motherfucker and saying you'd have a narcisstic disorder?
              wtf!!

              No I am saying your attitude and actions lead to the conclusion

              Oh you were talking about the Explorer? Nice for you. I wasn't. So it doesn't matter.

              Its part of the "index speed" -- amazing the word "index" in this context obviously refers to databasing of files,but YOLO



              Not quite right. Yes, the few MB of your NTFS driver indeed localize that file. But it is being localized on the HDD, NOT from the memory of the SSD. The OS does NOT have any handle nor index to that file stored on the SSD. That means, to find where the data of the file is stored, it has to go through the File System on the HDD, using seek operations to various places until it finds your multiple file fragments. THESE are very slow on HDDs though, that's why you have to defragment them from time to time. On an SSD it doesn't matter if two sets of data are stored right next to each other or you have to seek through the entire disk to find the other data. The entire file index is being stored on the HDD, so having your OS on your SSD won't make any application on the HDD start faster in that aspect (but in a different aspect: Applications use a lot of Windows Library files that need to be loaded, so those can be loaded a lot faster).

              You have to defragment hardrives due to data storage degradation. To read the Disk you have to go along with it, with flash memory as long as the location is known (the reference) it can be instantly called. Therefore the reason why the seek time is different has nothing to do with a File system its the way in which the memory is read.

              Also you basically explained what I've already said. ----OS calls information - HDD or SDD finds information. OS compiles it.
              Well done so there are seek times for the OS and seek times for the HDD/SDD
              Exactly what I've been saying. So having the OS on your SSD will improve the loading speed of every program. Congratulations....


              You are believing in myths. My SSD lives for 3 years already with VERY EXCESSIVE use. It doesn't have any issues. In fact, what you state is a myth based on one single memory manufacturer who once had this issue.
              Apart from this, saying you should install your OS on your SSD counters your own arguments since it includes various directories for temporary files.
              In fact, even if I installed Firefox on my HDD, it would still store all of its cache files on the %appdata% directory on the SSD.
              So if you really believe in your argument, you should definitely NOT install your OS on the SSD.
              Good for you, you don't treat your SSD correctly. Maybe your SSD is based off of Dram, then it'd make sense why you seem to have infinite write cycles.
              Even when you install your OS for your SSD you then obviously move the temporary folder locations/Derp also that's why you set it to store on your HDD, you shouldn't set your HDD as your primary drive for installation its so much hassle that way



              To be pushed on the RAM it requires the data to be read from the Drive first. Dota 2 weighs 10 GB. It's pretty obvious that it won't have all those 10 GB stored in RAM (especially since it would drastically increase starting times).
              Its pretty obvious it doesn't recall all that information in 1 load. The majority of that is models, models are loaded and rendered in game. The resources that are loaded are the UI (different screens/menu) - the engine - and possibly the map. When you load into the game after finding a match or lobby it will then load the rest of the data. Derp the majority of that 10gb is hats which you will never see. The cosmetics etc you can see are still just stored as files. You can call them whenever it makes no difference. Its load is negligible. It'd be stupid for any program to load 10gb of data on initialization.


              Let me guess: On low graphic settings? It obviously makes a big difference whether you're loading 1000 images of 500 KB per file, or 1000 images of 50 KB per file.
              And yes, since I am often testing in Dota 2 and starting the game up to 50 times per day on days where I am testing, Even 1 second starting time reduction feels already so much better.



              So everything I did was completely fine. Nice. Why even reply then?
              You are complaining about SSD space, so just remove the apps since the change in load time is negligible as its already increased by OS being on the SSD



              I don't care about loading speed of websites. I simply don't want to have to wait 30 seconds for Firefox to start. I want to click on the button and be instantly able to use it.

              That's really dumb

              All the tiny applications don't even fill 500 MB so they don't really matter. And I need the big applications like Cinema 4D, Photoshop and Maya to start quickly.

              Why?

              I own a Hybrid Drive in my laptop

              So why the fuck are you complaining about lacking SSD space. A Hybrid drive should be sufficient
              Derp obviously you don't want to take advice, rather you use it as an opportunity to attempt to massage your own ego and "far superior knowledge to everyone on everything" since you have some form of narcissistic disorder.
              Last edited by Crowfeather; 08-07-2014, 12:05 PM.
              Originally posted by Typhox
              Nope. Windows Explorer is not a database
              Take a look into the mirror! You think you are completely unfailable. With your limited knowledge, you think that you know more than someone who is very deep in the matter/an expert.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                No I am saying your attitude and actions lead to the conclusion
                Do you even realize that you do exactly what you claim I would be doing?

                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                Its part of the "index speed" -- amazing the word "index" in this context obviously refers to databasing of files,but YOLO
                Databasing of files is unrelated to the Windows Explorer. I could guess you meant the Windows Search Indexer instead, but that would only be a guess and you hate it when I guess. Anyway, the Search Indexer wouldn't be related to starting-times of application.

                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                You have to defragment hardrives due to data storage degradation. To read the Disk you have to go along with it, with flash memory as long as the location is known (the reference) it can be instantly called. Therefore the reason why the seek time is different has nothing to do with a File system its the way in which the memory is read.
                The way in which the memory is read is 100% determined by the file system, so your sentence makes 0 sense.

                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                Also you basically explained what I've already said. ----OS calls information - HDD or SDD finds information. OS compiles it.
                Well done so there are seek times for the OS and seek times for the HDD/SDD
                The seek times for the OS are in RAM and thus are completely negligible. The seek times for the HDD/SDD obviously differ extremely from that. Thus you are supporting my theory. I don't know why you are posting this.

                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                Exactly what I've been saying. So having the OS on your SSD will improve the loading speed of every program. Congratulations....
                I never said anything different. You however said that having other programs on the SSD would not significantly speed up the loading process. And that's plain bullshit.

                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                Good for you, you don't treat your SSD correctly. Maybe your SSD is based off of Dram, then it'd make sense why you seem to have infinite write cycles.
                Look, you come with a claim and you can't back it up.
                http://lifehacker.com/every-modern-s...d-li-826840082

                A test I just made:


                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                You are complaining about SSD space, so just remove the apps since the change in load time is negligible as its already increased by OS being on the SSD
                A 1000%+ increase in load speed is everything but negligible.

                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                Derp obviously you don't want to take advice, rather you use it as an opportunity to attempt to massage your own ego and "far superior knowledge to everyone on everything" since you have some form of narcissistic disorder.
                No, I simply don't take advice that's backed up by claims that are proven wrong. I am not as stupid as you think I would be.
                And the one with the high ego who thinks that he has "far superior knowledge to everyone on everything" is clearly you, since you constantly pretend you knew everything better.

                Look into the mirror!

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                • #23
                  I wonder if they will release new game to show off Source 2, or they will just port some of their existing games on it.
                  Possible solution to foreigners issue
                  In the grim darkness of the far future there is only war.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Typhox View Post
                    Do you even realize that you do exactly what you claim I would be doing?



                    Databasing of files is unrelated to the Windows Explorer. I could guess you meant the Windows Search Indexer instead, but that would only be a guess and you hate it when I guess. Anyway, the Search Indexer wouldn't be related to starting-times of application.
                    When using Windows explorer to view files etc this is a database. Congratulations on the new word



                    The way in which the memory is read is 100% determined by the file system, so your sentence makes 0 sense.
                    You'd already agreed with me Flash Memory can recall memory as memory location is known. HDD memory it has to reach the memory through reading the disk


                    The seek times for the OS are in RAM and thus are completely negligible. The seek times for the HDD/SDD obviously differ extremely from that. Thus you are supporting my theory. I don't know why you are posting this.
                    My point still stands


                    I never said anything different. You however said that having other programs on the SSD would not significantly speed up the loading process. And that's plain bullshit.
                    Not significantly no it wouldn't.


                    Look, you come with a claim and you can't back it up.
                    http://lifehacker.com/every-modern-s...d-li-826840082
                    Oh look an article on an unreliable site. Congratz
                    A test I just made:




                    A 1000%+ increase in load speed is everything but negligible.
                    Based on information from a shitty hard drive vs a good SDD or a shitty SDD vs a good hardrive. The point is the quality of the respective disk comes into play, so you can't make those comparisons fairly.


                    No, I simply don't take advice that's backed up by claims that are proven wrong. I am not as stupid as you think I would be.
                    And the one with the high ego who thinks that he has "far superior knowledge to everyone on everything" is clearly you, since you constantly pretend you knew everything better.

                    Look into the mirror!
                    Its obvious you just want another pissing match Which is with every argument I have with you, even when I build up on blocks of knowledge that you agree with you then ignore the normal logical conclusion because it doens't suit your original interpretation.
                    Also you ignored my point that the lifespan of your SSD will be unaffected by constantly writing to it if its DRAM based. Which your's probably is if it has 8 years life span. 8 years of constant use is longer than the average HDD. Crazy shit ....

                    I'm not going to bother continuing this as I don't want another week ruined with hour long conversations. (Such like the ones I used to have with you as when I was explaining the basics of balancing and we built upon blocks of agreed knowledge then you'd ignore the conclusion drawn even though you agreed with everything that supported the conclusion and you gave no alternative)

                    Derppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

                    Also your quoted article only proves my point anyway. It says "More ram = longer lasting SSD/better system performance" Congratulations....
                    Enjoy
                    Originally posted by Typhox
                    Nope. Windows Explorer is not a database
                    Take a look into the mirror! You think you are completely unfailable. With your limited knowledge, you think that you know more than someone who is very deep in the matter/an expert.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                      When using Windows explorer to view files etc this is a database. Congratulations on the new word
                      Nope. Windows Explorer is not a database.

                      Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                      Oh look an article on an unreliable site. Congratz
                      It's just showing you that everyone who researched on that topic came to the same result as me.
                      You were just too lazy to research. Not my fault.

                      Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                      You'd already agreed with me Flash Memory can recall memory as memory location is known. HDD memory it has to reach the memory through reading the disk
                      And still the HDD needs to know where the data is stored on its disc. Does the OS give it a memory-address? No. The FileSystem does. Not like it matters anyway, because you just agreed that an SSD is indeed faster than a HDD in terms of reading data. So I don't get why you are still arguing.

                      Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                      Not significantly no it wouldn't.
                      It "wouldn't"? No, it DOES! Since when is it not a significant difference whether my application starts within 1 second or within 5 seconds?

                      Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                      Based on information from a shitty hard drive vs a good SDD or a shitty SDD vs a good hardrive. The point is the quality of the respective disk comes into play, so you can't make those comparisons fairly.
                      And still YOU make those comparisions. And it's actually based on infromation from a decent Hard Drive vs a decent SSD.

                      Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                      Its obvious you just want another pissing match Which is with every argument I have with you, even when I build up on blocks of knowledge that you agree with you then ignore the normal logical conclusion because it doens't suit your original interpretation.
                      Take a look into the mirror! You think you are completely unfailable. With your limited knowledge, you think that you know more than someone who is very deep in the matter/an expert. You have some serious issues.
                      The difference between the way you argue and me, is that I know pretty well what I don't know, whereas you simply pretend you knew everything even though you clearly have no clue about a lot of stuff.

                      Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                      Also you ignored my point that the lifespan of your SSD will be unaffected by constantly writing to it if its DRAM based.
                      If it was like this, you wouldn't even have needed to start this entire discussion and attacking me, because you could have simply asked first for the type of my memory. You claim this was a "pissing contest", but you are the guy who constantly tries to accuse me of things. There was no requirement at all for you to start with this discussion. If you'd really want to give me advice, you'd have had mentioned the DRAM thing right in the beginning before coming with your accusations.

                      Either way though, my SSD is Synchronous NAND. Furthermore, you still lack any source about SSDs having a low lifespan. You are complaining about my unreliable sources just quoting random people, however you only quoted yourself so far. In the meantime I read some more articles about SSD lifetimes. The lifetime issue is a myth.

                      Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                      I'm not going to bother continuing this as I don't want another week ruined with hour long conversations. (Such like the ones I used to have with you as when I was explaining the basics of balancing and we built upon blocks of agreed knowledge then you'd ignore the conclusion drawn even though you agreed with everything that supported the conclusion and you gave no alternative)
                      We never agreed. You just made very silly statements and arguments. You accuse me of using my SSD wrong. You were wrong. You don't want to admit that you were wrong, because in your brain you think you are always right. You blame me.

                      Just stop.

                      Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                      Also your quoted article only proves my point anyway. It says "More ram = longer lasting SSD/better system performance" Congratulations....
                      Enjoy
                      I have 16 GB ram. Of course it increases performance, because applications can store more stuff in RAM and don't need to read things multiple times. Unfortunately, many software - and this includes Dota 2 - is still running on 32 bit so it's really pointless.



                      I'm sorry that you have a shitty computer and can only dream of an SSD.
                      But that's clearly not my fault.
                      Last edited by Typhox; 08-07-2014, 02:21 PM.

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                      • #26
                        pony and dragon calm down and take it to PMs nobody cares
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                        • #27
                          SSDs are well past the point where you should actually care what you install onto them, even with hardcore use of SSDs the time it takes for the drive to die is well past the point when you'd change it for something else anyway. It used to be different. I wouldn't be surprised if a fair chunk of SSD users are running them in IDE instead of AHCI.

                          But yeah, they could say it better that the actual file size is 6GB-somethings. I actually wanted to open the map to see all the exact locations of triggers and whatnot, couldn't see the creepcamp spawn checkboxes right away though. Maybe it is under some visibility filter option or then it is the "agrorange" trigger I was looking at around the camps and not every functionality is implemented as of yet.

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                          • #28
                            Couldn't help myself I just laughed so much.
                            https://www.microsoft.com/resources/....mspx?mfr=true

                            database
                            ˈdeɪtəbeɪs/Submit
                            noun
                            a structured set of data held in a computer, especially one that is accessible in various ways.
                            "a database covering nine million workers"

                            Originally posted by Typhox View Post
                            Nope. Windows Explorer is not a database
                            Take a look into the mirror! You think you are completely unfailable. With your limited knowledge, you think that you know more than someone who is very deep in the matter/an expert.
                            That is sig worthy.


                            Side note going to University and being mid way through a "Game Design degree" does not make you an expert at Tech. That's what CS degree exists for. A game design degree is basically a cop out.

                            Crushed dreams http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/commen...s_worth_while/
                            Last edited by Crowfeather; 08-08-2014, 05:49 AM.
                            Originally posted by Typhox
                            Nope. Windows Explorer is not a database
                            Take a look into the mirror! You think you are completely unfailable. With your limited knowledge, you think that you know more than someone who is very deep in the matter/an expert.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Noya View Post
                              pony and dragon calm down and take it to PMs nobody cares
                              agree, take your hardware discussion crap out of dota related topics. Other than that- buy yourself a 512gb ssd and stop whining for hecks sake. A crucial mx100 512gb costs around 200 dollars.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                                Couldn't help myself I just laughed so much.
                                https://www.microsoft.com/resources/....mspx?mfr=true

                                database
                                ˈdeɪtəbeɪs/Submit
                                noun
                                a structured set of data held in a computer, especially one that is accessible in various ways.
                                "a database covering nine million workers"
                                That is sig worthy.
                                Only your stupidity is sig worthy. The Windows Explorer is only a viewer for a database (which is your File System in this case). The article you provided exactly confirmed me here.
                                I think you are a really sad person not even knowing what a database is XDDD. You mistake a program that only displays data from a different source, with the actual data. I mean, how bad can someone be at computers?

                                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                                Side note going to University and being mid way through a "Game Design degree" does not make you an expert at Tech. That's what CS degree exists for. A game design degree is basically a cop out.
                                It's not a GameDesign degree. It's just a normal Bachelor of Science.
                                And btw I don't have my knowledge from this university, I have it from researching and programming. You have your knowledge from no place, right?
                                You just make everything up.


                                Originally posted by Crowfeather View Post
                                "Get a programming degree" - funny thing, that's what I will finish with.

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