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[Suggestion "pack"] Dota Profile changes

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Pandamonium View Post
    losses should be shown on the profile page, since they can already be seen.. click on a player profile and you will see his wins.
    then click on the page with games played, look at how many pages of games are displayed and multiply this by 7 (7 replays on each page).
    substract 7, because on the last page there are not always 7 replays, and add the number of games on last page.. tada you got the players number of games, since u know their wins you can now calculate winning percentage and losses

    example: player 1337noob has 25 pages on his replays, 4 replays on the last page and 70 wins.

    he has a total of (25-1)*7+4=172 games
    he has 172-70=102 losses
    his winning percentage is 70/172=40,7%

    pls valve, if you want the player profile to hide lost games and dont show *bad stats* then really hide them.
    im against that btw, i want to see winning percentage and wins without having to calculate it every time i look at player profiles.
    and with mods, i guess you could even have a mod open every replay and calculate k/d/a, gpm etc.

    so pls, just show these values as default, and make an option to hide them so bad players can hide their stats if they want.
    Still think that losses shouldn't be shown, mb just fix it somehow so we can't count losses=) Like hiding game history for other players or showing only first 3 pages of it or smth. else.
    My threads:
    [Suggestion] Emoticons in chat wheel
    [Gameplay Bug] MoM and Desolator working together
    [Suggestion] Hero portrait and Aghanim "skill point"
    [Visual Glitch] Small ability icon glitch
    [Visual Glitch] Strange Slark model glitch
    [Visual Glitch] Naga Siren's reflection on the ground
    Glitched TI3 courier tooltip

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Svyaga View Post
      Still think that losses shouldn't be shown, mb just fix it somehow so we can't count losses=) Like hiding game history for other players or showing only first 3 pages of it or smth. else.
      yeah im not saying i want to force everybody to show the stats, but the way it is now you can already see them, it just requires more clicks and a little thinking. also i think its stupid that most succesful heros are, according to valve dota profile, the heros with most wins.. i currently have 5 wins and 8 losses with morphling, and hes shown as one of my most succesful heros, despite being 4 0 with veno, 5 1 with jakiro, spectre and weaver.. i think this should use winning percentage, like mentioned in op.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Pandamonium View Post
        yeah im not saying i want to force everybody to show the stats, but the way it is now you can already see them, it just requires more clicks and a little thinking. also i think its stupid that most succesful heros are, according to valve dota profile, the heros with most wins.. i currently have 5 wins and 8 losses with morphling, and hes shown as one of my most succesful heros, despite being 4 0 with veno, 5 1 with jakiro, spectre and weaver.. i think this should use winning percentage, like mentioned in op.
        The stuff about most wins already posted here ^___^
        Btw added your example about number of losses being countable with pointing you ofc =)
        Last edited by Svyaga; 01-21-2012, 11:43 AM.
        My threads:
        [Suggestion] Emoticons in chat wheel
        [Gameplay Bug] MoM and Desolator working together
        [Suggestion] Hero portrait and Aghanim "skill point"
        [Visual Glitch] Small ability icon glitch
        [Visual Glitch] Strange Slark model glitch
        [Visual Glitch] Naga Siren's reflection on the ground
        Glitched TI3 courier tooltip

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        • #19
          player 1337noob has 25 pages on his replays, 4 replays on the last page and 70 wins.

          he has a total of (25-1)*7+4=172 games
          he has 172-70=102 losses
          Excuse me kindly, but I only have 85 losses and 73 wins.


          Actually, I'm in for it, there's nothing not to like.
          Last edited by 1337_n00b; 11-14-2012, 07:45 AM.
          Heroes this user should seriously reconsider ever picking again.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Svyaga View Post
            The stuff about most wins already posted here ^___^
            Btw added your example about number of losses being countable with pointing you ofc =)
            nice

            and to 1337_noob:
            sorry man, was just picking a random name with random numbers^^ should have expected that someone has that nick

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pandamonium View Post
              nice

              and to 1337_noob:
              sorry man, was just picking a random name with random numbers^^ should have expected that someone has that nick
              You weren't that far off with the wins tho^^
              Meh, what should I say?
              I'd really like the profile to show the total number of games rather than the wins.
              If they do show the wins then also the total number of games cuz that number is way more important than the wins.
              If someone has, says 20 wins, he could have played 20 games, 120 or even 1024 aka 2^10.
              Thus, the information on his wins is as empty as it could be.
              Just stating

              120 games

              or also

              120 games, 20 wins

              would provide way better information.

              In Starcraft broodwar, there'd been players who'd intentionally lose. They had like 50-2000 stats or so.
              Just join a game, bash some heads in and when you are about to win, just leave.
              That's the place, where I learned, it doesn't matter, how the win/loss ratio is in the first place.
              What matters first is how many games were played in total as with this, you get a way clearer picture of a person.

              With the old multiplatform etc stuff from DotA this didn't hold true obv. someone who has played like 30 games on a certain platform, winning every single one of them could have played way more games than someone else having played like 2k games on that platform.

              With Dota2 however it will hold true again, that number of games == experience.

              Not talking about abstract stuff like skill here.
              Just experience.
              And that's, what the profile should depict.

              I want to be able to see the amount of games, someone spent playing Dota2.
              If the profile shows more, that's fine.
              Last edited by naphack; 01-21-2012, 03:42 PM.

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              • #22
                I like it. +1


                Not all brazilians are assholes...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by naphack View Post
                  I want to be able to see the amount of games, someone spent playing Dota2.
                  Hmmm... I think I can agree with this and will add this to 1st post, it's certainly better than ammount of wins. But I'm thinking of anything else that could be shown without revealing stats which flamers use to flame ^__^
                  Well for example they flame me anyway saying "Ah, russian, says everything" T_T
                  My threads:
                  [Suggestion] Emoticons in chat wheel
                  [Gameplay Bug] MoM and Desolator working together
                  [Suggestion] Hero portrait and Aghanim "skill point"
                  [Visual Glitch] Small ability icon glitch
                  [Visual Glitch] Strange Slark model glitch
                  [Visual Glitch] Naga Siren's reflection on the ground
                  Glitched TI3 courier tooltip

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Mittsies View Post
                    Most successful is a dumb idea anyways.

                    It should be most played heroes/favorite heroes.
                    What happens if you random some hero you hate and just happen to win most of those games by luck? That means that hero is gonna be stuck there forever unless you purposely bomb some games to get him off of your most played. I'd rather show a 30 win/30 loss score with a hero I like instead of a 10 win / 0 loss with a hero I dislike.
                    I dont think most successful = most wins. I believe it has a hidden score that has more to it because I have heroes there who I've won less with, but for example, killed many more players with, or farmed higher gold/min averages.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Avs View Post
                      I dont think most successful = most wins. I believe it has a hidden score that has more to it because I have heroes there who I've won less with, but for example, killed many more players with, or farmed higher gold/min averages.
                      There are different roles in the game, u cant get much gold/kills with a support for example, so your argument is too bad, sorry=) And read the first post about the most succesful...
                      My threads:
                      [Suggestion] Emoticons in chat wheel
                      [Gameplay Bug] MoM and Desolator working together
                      [Suggestion] Hero portrait and Aghanim "skill point"
                      [Visual Glitch] Small ability icon glitch
                      [Visual Glitch] Strange Slark model glitch
                      [Visual Glitch] Naga Siren's reflection on the ground
                      Glitched TI3 courier tooltip

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                      • #26
                        Just seeing a percentage isn't of use to me, show how many games too.

                        Win Rate: 50%
                        .............................Games Played: 10

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by akaHideinlight View Post
                          Just seeing a percentage isn't of use to me, show how many games too.

                          Win Rate: 50%
                          .............................Games Played: 10
                          Read better pls...
                          Originally posted by Svyaga View Post
                          Well the ammount should be count too (so 1/0 hero doesn't become most succesful cuz his win rate is 100% when 10/2 doesn't), but not as priority.
                          My threads:
                          [Suggestion] Emoticons in chat wheel
                          [Gameplay Bug] MoM and Desolator working together
                          [Suggestion] Hero portrait and Aghanim "skill point"
                          [Visual Glitch] Small ability icon glitch
                          [Visual Glitch] Strange Slark model glitch
                          [Visual Glitch] Naga Siren's reflection on the ground
                          Glitched TI3 courier tooltip

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                          • #28
                            +1

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                            • #29
                              +1

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                              • #30
                                I absolutely would love to see something similar to this in the future!

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