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  • #31
    Originally posted by NXCL View Post
    If there are stats, even if you don't like them and wont look at them, other people who cares about stats will, and will accordingly, judge you on the grounds of your stats regardless of how good (or bad) a player you are. Stats can only encapsulate so much about a player's skill, and are not a true representation of a player's capabilities (or lack thereof).
    Wow, you just gave me another reason for wanting stats. It actually makes people want to get better.. because, who wants bad stats? If other players are always on your back about the stats, you will get affected and improve accordingly. Thanks NXCL.

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    • #32
      Stats will most likely be private to prevent prejudice by any means.
      It is really none of your business to know how someone plays.

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      • #33
        Even this is the Point. Its not Like this! In HoN many people just lh kills with support heroes to get better K/D.
        Dota shall be without stats! Or Only possible to see for you!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by AychAychAych View Post
          Stats will most likely be private to prevent prejudice by any means.
          It is really none of your business to know how someone plays.
          Stop being so freaking newage.
          It adds value to the game if you can see other peoples stats.

          If i were to recruit a clanmember to my pupstomperclan, and a person messaged me telling me his ingame nick, i can search for him and find out that he has an average cs of 60 each game, always playing as a carry. I would not even try him for my pubstomperclan.

          If i didnt prejudice him based on his stats, i would have a 40 minute game of hell. See?

          Originally posted by ugot.juked View Post
          Even this is the Point. Its not Like this! In HoN many people just lh kills with support heroes to get better K/D.
          Dota shall be without stats! Or Only possible to see for you!
          Could someone please translate?
          Last edited by Trem; 02-13-2012, 05:52 AM. Reason: translateneeds

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Trem View Post
            Stop being so freaking newage.
            It adds value to the game if you can see other peoples stats.

            If i were to recruit a clanmember to my pupstomperclan, and a person messaged me telling me his ingame nick, i can search for him and find out that he has an average cs of 60 each game, always playing as a carry. I would not even try him for my pubstomperclan.

            If i didnt prejudice him based on his stats, i would have a 40 minute game of hell. See?
            People can on their own initiative give their stats if they will.
            Also the goal is to avoid prejudice, not encourage it. Your selfish reasons are meaningless.

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            • #36
              No, we don't need stats. Just another reason for jerks to flame people.

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              • #37
                Stats make people better players. I dont find any other reason why typical medicore hon player is heaps better than typical medicore dota player. However stats add a lot of rage into the games.. so I dont know.

                Since I come from Hon. I better explain how stats work and people interrept them. First of all nobody is flaming anyone for kill/death ratio. However if stats show that in addition to bad kd ratio you play a lot of carries, have low lasthit/denies people WILL determine that you are not very good carry player. And why shouldnt they? Because you arent in that case. Also I've never seen people with high ward placement stat being flamed for low kd. Because everyone with a bit of intelligence knows he likes to play supports and ward alot.

                Also the most important stat is the win%. Because if you have it above 50% you are doing something right no matter the stats you have.
                Last edited by deityh; 02-13-2012, 06:19 AM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by AychAychAych View Post
                  People can on their own initiative give their stats if they will.
                  Also the goal is to avoid prejudice, not encourage it. Your selfish reasons are meaningless.
                  Why are you so afraid of prejudice? Just ignore the people that is "judging" you because you "had a really really bad game" with that 0-20 riki of yours.

                  Originally posted by keranov View Post
                  No, we don't need stats. Just another reason for jerks to flame people.
                  Once again, there is a ignore function. The people (including me) that wants stats is a majority, so if you are afraid of flame, either get better or use the mutefunction, its not hard.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Trem View Post
                    Why are you so afraid of prejudice? Just ignore the people that is "judging" you because you "had a really really bad game" with that 0-20 riki of yours.
                    This is not about "who is afraid" or ashamed of bad games.
                    This is about general attitude to remove lot of the negative stigma Dota community has. Having people picking into the past records of new or bad players is not going to help that at all.
                    I am actually trying to think for other people here you know.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Trem View Post
                      The people (including me) that wants stats is a majority
                      Source please. As with the way this thread (and many others before this one) is going, it suggests otherwise.
                      To keep these forums clean and friendly, please read and follow the forum rules.
                      Before making a new thread, be sure to have used search, as well as checking the stickies of the appropriate section.



                      Lore moderator.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Hefaistus View Post
                        Source please. As with the way this thread (and many others before this one) is going, it suggests otherwise.
                        Okay, people with skill want stats. People that actually knows how to play this game wants stats. People that isnt noob wants stats.

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                        • #42
                          That is not a source. That is not proof. That is a baseless claim holding absolutely no ground. It is a generalisation and an erroneous one as well.
                          You want people to take you serious, then come with hard facts, sources that we can check, not with what you think is the standard. You don't actually argue with anyone's reasoning that does not match your own, you just keep keep throwing around your ignorant claims.
                          To keep these forums clean and friendly, please read and follow the forum rules.
                          Before making a new thread, be sure to have used search, as well as checking the stickies of the appropriate section.



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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Trem View Post
                            Okay, people with skill want stats. People that actually knows how to play this game wants stats. People that isnt noob wants stats.
                            And who might be those? Your imaginary high skill pro friends?
                            All hail St. Regina!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Hefaistus View Post
                              That is not a source. That is not proof. That is a baseless claim holding absolutely no ground. It is a generalisation and an erroneous one as well.
                              You want people to take you serious, then come with hard facts, sources that we can check, not with what you think is the standard. You don't actually argue with anyone's reasoning that does not match your own, you just keep keep throwing around your ignorant claims.
                              Ok, lets be like that.

                              Give me a source or any proof at all its the other way around. Oh.. nothing to say? how bad.

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                              • #45
                                I want stats. Me and my friends are always competing for highest kills + assists. so i would want a K/D/A overall to compare my overall stats vs the overall stats i used to have on sigs in dota league ^^. Total amount of wards bought would be epic as well, total amount of dusts and sentrys would rock too.

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