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  • OperativeX
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    I think the Valve Devs should remove the Report buttons and have the punishment system fully automated with no option for players to report each other.

    Why? Lets look at all 3 Report Options:-


    Intentional Feeding

    This is not needed as a report option. The game should automatically throw a player into low priority if he/she intentionally feeds more than twice in one week. The game knows when you are intentionally feeding because you have a huge amount of deaths in an abnormally small amount of time.


    Ability Abuse

    This happens very rarely and even when it does, most of the time you can simply use the 'Disable help' option in the game tab to stop players being able to fountain relocate you. Valve just needs to extend that option and make it so that no team mate can use items or spells on you when you 'Disable help.'


    Comms Abuse

    This should not even be an issue. We have an in-game mute button that instantly fixes the problem and stops people flaming right there and then. The fact that there is a redundant Report button for this just shows a lack of common sense.


    Abandoning Game

    This is a fine example of a fully automated punishment system working as intended and doing a perfect job. You abandon a ranked game more than twice in a week, you get low prio. Simple.

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  • Spellbindermage
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    Hey, you're not in it alone DeLJaDe , I am def. with you. I have only played for almost 2 weeks. I helped the team win in 2 diff. games and was reported for not doing enough. I kept the lanes alive for us so they could charge in after all their farming, I blocked the creeps of the enemies, I distracted the enemy when they would have come in and kicked our butts, by pinging them and alerting to a tower under attack with the lanes I kept open. I took out several towers ON MY OWN mind you, and did I mention we won???? I alerted everyone on the mic when sneak attacks came, but my sacrifices were left unnoticed and reported, no replays watched or ?'s asked. I snuck around with Riki in several games also doing the same and what did I get for that, the next 3 games in a row I played AFTER winning matches with him, Riki gets banned along with Death Assassin, the only 2 out of 3 Heroes I know how to play.... You are not alone.... Hope our voices are heard by someone who cares, has a desire to help & and has a little discernment & wisdom to observe outside the box. Keep the Faith man!!!!

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  • Spellbindermage
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    I tell you this, that there should be someone to appeal to about being put in low priority. I had 2 games where someone without any real knowledge stirred the others up to report me. I have a different style, but it helped us win both times. I didn't focus on my needs as much on diverting the enemies attention and pushing so no lanes were open to the enemy but were open for us. If people had to be opened minded, listen & watch the replays they would see I helped them/us all win while they could farm and then focus their attacks. I hate this report aspect. People don't realize, but ever idea/method may be new at one time, but as it is said, 'If a plan is stupid, and it works.... it's not stupid.' How can you get others on a team to point out the wrong someone is doing when so much is going on, and they didn't even watch the replay?.... no, only by review should a report be given " Get 4 games within a week that you are reported, someone reviews the games and gets a statement from the 'offender' and takes it into consideration". I don't know how many times I asked for help or tried to get people to communicate, but either people want to play their way like they are playing a Captain game, or they just don't respond.... 'Hey I'm poorly matched up here and can't get next to the creeps without getting killed, can someone switch?.....(silence). Hey this is hurting the team (silence). etc etc etc. Reporting should be banned, at least in the way it is. I only played for 2 weeks now, I am pretty good at helping and pulling my weight with a few heroes, but I am not recognized. I got a commend everyone, except report spellbinder.... yeah thanks, watch the video!

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  • Wings01
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    Matchmaking system by Valve are shit.

    30 lose streak ranked.

    And I do not fall once in low priority, this proves that it is not my fault, in 280 matches ...

    https://www.dotabuff.com/players/116421792/matches

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  • ramma
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    It seems like something has changed with reports. I used to have a basically flawless report record with plenty of extra reports from action being taken. I started playing again 4 months back after about 1 year away, but I've yet to see a action taken notification. Report ethic is virtually identical to before (only for intentional feeding, blatant insults/toxicity and such). I even was getting 1 report a week when I came back, only going up to 3 after an email to Valve, but that's likely pure coincidence.

    Is there an up to date description somewhere of how reports work now?

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  • DeLJaDe
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    https://www.dotabuff.com/players/65917381/matches
    Low priority for nothing... third week in a row.
    It actually makes me pretty depressed that I can't sharpen my skills and improve my rating in ranked because the game for some reason thinks I am intentionally feeding or otherwise griefing, while I am giving it my best to win.
    My "punishments" were exactly 7 days apart so it might have something to do with the report reset day. My conduct summary right after getting into LP was 6 reports, 0 abandons and 6 commends.
    Seriously, low priority for 6 reports in 25 matches? In my games everyone uses it as a "f*ck you" button.
    I can probably pinpoint the last two reports I've got, in the off chance anyone actually cares. https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3359218917 QoP threatened to report me, we did some ganks in the mid game during some of which he died and blamed me. https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3359007381 puck didnt agree with my build, actually pasted the report text after game.
    With all the passion I've put into this game, this is starting to take a toll on my mood and confidence, also, the constant threat of almost routine low priority punishments is too discouraging. I know I dont have the will to play through this one, just hope that by the time I decide the give this another chance, the LP bans will have been reset and the system will be "fixed", and hopefully this blog post will help this cause.

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  • Ninsanity
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    guys where can i report people who feeds nonstop and player who fix games?

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  • Iratus
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    Not enough reports per week. Please give us more.

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  • ihatemondayz
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    i cant see his low priority games Valve, how many more millions do u need to
    remove current broken 12yo written report system and create normal one?
    1.jpg2.jpg

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  • fsl
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    Hello there,

    I might sound like another crying kid but it's not the case. Just wanted to share my experience which is kinda similar to some of the comments I read above. Anyway, LP system is total crap. My "age" as a dota player is higher than a lot of current players' actual age, lol. But LP system made me actually quit the game for about 6 months just to come back after amnesty to get another LP in like 4-5 games and I left the game for another 3 months. I played 7 games (lost them all ) and guess what, I'm in LP for 3 games. The funny thing is that I tried ignoring my team's rudeness and only used chat wheel for basic communication. It just doesn't fucking matter, you can report everyone with bad KDA and get your reports back. Dota community has always been toxic and making people to go through that struggle called LP makes them even more toxic especially when you get LP for no reason. On average it took me about 5-8 hours to get out of LP in the past (5 wins required). Well, you made me gave up on dota and try stuff like LoL, your direct competitor btw. I'm not going to compare these two games but community there is a way better and friendlier (based on my ~1000 LoL games) even though they don't have THAT strict punishment for reports. I don't really believe responsible folks care about complaints like mine cuz it's been too long since they implemented this LP system, but I'd better spend some time on this post so that I know that I contributed towards a possible improvement.

    PS Excuse my English, I'm not a native speaker
    peace out

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  • party mmr
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    lol looks like valve is hearing from us and a lot of comments here are implemented, i love those valve guys

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  • outdoorkiller
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    So here is the problem you give power to toxic flaming people with the current reporting system. This means that people who actually behave during matches risk ending up in low priority doing absolutely nothing wrong. Recently I have seen around 50% of my friends end up in low prio and a week ago it was my turn for the first time to end in low priority. I been around Dota for more than 10 years and seen how the community have gotten worse, for now I will not be playing anymore pub games untill valve take the issue serious and look into fixing it.

    Here is my suggest towards improving the current reporting system. First of people who are toxic should not really be able to report others, the easy way to do this is to disable the reporting system for people who have been in low priority first time it could be disabled for a month second time 6months. This way we don't have toxic players reporting others for no reason. Second thing people who is in a stack should not be able to make more than 1 report towards a player and the whole stack should lose a report for this to avoid toxic stacks. Same goes the other way it should be possible to report a stack of players with only 1 report, this should also be implemented.

    Please Devs look into this assap.

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  • Heffestus
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    I've been in low prio since like july of 2016 . Half year later i decided "They wont remove it so i have to try and win those 3 games just for sake of being able to play with my friends again" . Been waiting like 10 minutes to find a match....nothing was found....decided i wont try anymore ill just wait when devs will finally read all those posts and remove low prio thingy especially that it isnt working the way it should. Stupidiest thing is that i dont like PVP matches at all so im playing Coop games against bots . Yea you can be low prio'ed for playing bot games . Good logic for that system :s

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  • TheEdge
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    Fuck you DotaDev!
    Last edited by TheEdge; 01-19-2017, 11:14 PM.

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  • Lucaefor
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    Originally posted by Cosmic Raven View Post
    [LIST=1]Volvo, why in the name of creation can we NOT mute pings?
    100% agree. Ping spammers are the pitts, like neighbours banging hammers into the wall at 3 am in the morning.

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