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    What the f*ck is this sh*t, seriously ? How can those two teams be match made against each other ?
    The Search range wasn't even big !

    Note: Go watch the game before commenting.
    if you intend on commeting just by seeing the dotabuff page, then please don't.
    Last edited by Shadowsong; 01-04-2013, 11:22 AM.

  • #2
    who were you in game?

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    • #3
      The one crying that MM is a piece of garbage, throughout half of the game.

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      • #4
        Im no sure what you complain about, rubik bought wards all game he even got drums to support, kunkka and strom didnt play bad. Wisp got a bad build but still did some good plays.... On the other hand you picked meepo after nyx and omni pick, bad call also you rushed to pick so you got a shaker who owned you, anyway you played a nice game but i dont think mm is broken you allies had the same skill as you and btw i watched the scores of your last games.
        92683441 Carried by your teammates
        92639999 This game
        92619891 Not played
        92092815 Carried by Clinks
        92066344 A bad game for you
        92066344 A good team you won carried by a 20 5 pudge
        91444293 Carried by invoker
        91417532 you won carried your team, the other 4 on your team seem to play nice
        91344449 Good team you won everyone with good scores
        91274155 Carried by am
        91179191 Carried by weaver

        so of you last 10 games you won 8 and lost 2, i see you are playing in premades but there are premades of only 3.. come on mm is broken becasue you lost 1 game? and the diffrence in gpm and exp at 30 mins was only 2000

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        • #5
          you allies had the same skill as you
          Thats the most ignorant, insulting, idiotic comment that I've seen regarding my dota2 skill level in the last 6 months.

          Saying that those idiots belong in the same game as me means that either you have some SERIOUS eye-sight problem, you have no idea what you're talking about or you're in fact one of those players who obviously don't belong in the same game as me.

          - ANY of the enemy team's players is better than ALL of my allies
          - My suicide-lane meepo ( one of the lowest win% heroes in the game .... in the hardest lane vs 2 heroes ) is better than ALL of my enemies.
          ( Imagine the hypothetical situation in which i actually played a hero which i can ... like an invoker or a storm spirit or a pudge ... i would rage the absolute sh*t out of that game, because non of these people scale my skill level with the worst hero in the game and whats left to something which i can actually play ? )

          My skill level and control is FAR BEYOND that of any of the other 9 players in the game. There is absolutely no reason why i should be match made with ANY of those players. Its not even close , its not even arguable , the skill difference is so big that i was going to leave a couple of times from the game .... cuz the MM is just a f*cking joke.

          I've played HoN, I've played LoL .... the dota2 MM is the f*cking worst, seriously. Especially compared to the HoN one its a waste of time.

          The problem with the MM is when you're in a solo queue.
          Last edited by Shadowsong; 01-04-2013, 02:30 PM.

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          • #6
            You can keep blaming your teammates but the truth is you did a bad pick got counter picked played a nice game and wasn't enoght. And you won 8 of last 10 games 6 of them you got carried 2 of them you had good teammates and you didnt do anything special. Also your friends MUffin and 15 are clearly more skilled than you and in a higher tier. They carried you to a high mm pool and you got owned, just can't belive you cry because you lost 2 games out of 10, you are just a complainer who only see what he wants.
            Last edited by Nycoh; 01-04-2013, 02:29 PM.

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            • #7
              I'm about 95% sure that you're someone in that game. What you're saying just makes absolutely no sense and is like super far from reality. Mega delusional.

              Edit: The other 5% is reserved for either "drug addict" or a "purely insane person".
              Last edited by Shadowsong; 01-04-2013, 02:48 PM.

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              • #8
                No, I wont watch the entire replay. However, even if they did not play very good, a 49:30 is not completly imbalanced. That's how a game ends most times, especially when a hero like husk gets to many kills...
                And how do you even wonder why you get matched? They have the same amount as games then you and a higher winrate. I don't know what happened, but according to the statistics, they fit.
                If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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                • #9
                  This guy is the tipycal dota player he got carrie to a higher tier by his friends he won like idk 6 7 games in a row, he went solo queue got raped blamed everyone and complained mm is broken. Btw i wasn't in that game just annoys me people saying mm is broken for 1 game and not watching the other 10 games they have good matches

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shadowsong View Post
                    Thats the most ignorant, insulting, idiotic comment that I've seen regarding my dota2 skill level in the last 6 months.

                    Saying that those idiots belong in the same game as me means that either you have some SERIOUS eye-sight problem, you have no idea what you're talking about or you're in fact one of those players who obviously don't belong in the same game as me.

                    - ANY of the enemy team's players is better than ALL of my allies
                    - My suicide-lane meepo ( one of the lowest win% heroes in the game .... in the hardest lane vs 2 heroes ) is better than ALL of my enemies.
                    ( Imagine the hypothetical situation in which i actually played a hero which i can ... like an invoker or a storm spirit or a pudge ... i would rage the absolute sh*t out of that game, because non of these people scale my skill level with the worst hero in the game and whats left to something which i can actually play ? )

                    My skill level and control is FAR BEYOND that of any of the other 9 players in the game. There is absolutely no reason why i should be match made with ANY of those players. Its not even close , its not even arguable , the skill difference is so big that i was going to leave a couple of times from the game .... cuz the MM is just a f*cking joke.

                    I've played HoN, I've played LoL .... the dota2 MM is the f*cking worst, seriously. Especially compared to the HoN one its a waste of time.

                    The problem with the MM is when you're in a solo queue.
                    The problem is that you played meepo MM works decently only if you tryhard with your best horoes.
                    Read this if you want to know why so many games is very one sided: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...l=1#post436467

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by IWantToHelpAsMuchAsIcan View Post
                      The problem is that you played meepo MM works decently only if you tryhard with your best horoes.
                      The hero doesn't matter. That game was unwinnable. It was pretty much 5x1.
                      It doesnt matter if i was mid with a semi-carry even, they're such a fail that its just not possible to win the game.
                      Originally posted by Nycoh View Post
                      This guy is the tipycal dota player he got carrie to a higher tier by his friends he won like idk 6 7 games in a row, he went solo queue got raped blamed everyone and complained mm is broken. Btw i wasn't in that game just annoys me people saying mm is broken for 1 game and not watching the other 10 games they have good matches
                      One of the reasons why your words doesn't make any sense is because you can easily check my dota buff profile
                      https://dotabuff.com/players/86784474
                      and see that i have no more than 30/40 games in a stack out of 2000 games. Thats pretty much 99.8% of the time I'm playing a solo quque.

                      The other thing that you should know is that i was most probably in the Very High Skill pool before you knew what dota2 was.
                      When I'm not playing meepo and am playing serious heroes I'm in the highest of MM tiers. Constantly play with professionals like:
                      https://dotabuff.com/matches/48910671 ( Bamboe )
                      https://dotabuff.com/matches/49596870 ( Lacoste )
                      Scandal ( A LOT ), Burning, Misery, Dendi, Singsing, Admiral Bulldog and so on ... people that you'll never have the skill level to be in the same game as them. So please ... don't talk about my skill level ... i don't need someone to tell me if I'm "good" or "bad", cuz i already know the answer to that long long long before i started playing meepo and long before i started that thread.

                      I'm just playing meepo almost every game for the last few months , ok ?

                      Back to the game:
                      The point is that even with a meepo , these people just don't scale my skill level AND STILL they're in my game. The two teams are just not balanced, the SS and the Kunka have absolutely no idea what they're doing and the other two are idiot-like. Its not the hero, its the Match Making.

                      There is clearly a huge skill difference between the two teams.

                      And i'm not ASKING you if the game is imbalanced, I'm TELLING the devs that its HIGHLY imbalanced
                      Last edited by Shadowsong; 01-05-2013, 01:08 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nycoh View Post
                        Im no sure what you complain about, rubik bought wards all game he even got drums to support, kunkka and strom didnt play bad. Wisp got a bad build but still did some good plays.... On the other hand you picked meepo after nyx and omni pick, bad call also you rushed to pick so you got a shaker who owned you, anyway you played a nice game but i dont think mm is broken you allies had the same skill as you and btw i watched the scores of your last games.
                        92683441 Carried by your teammates
                        92639999 This game
                        92619891 Not played
                        92092815 Carried by Clinks
                        92066344 A bad game for you
                        92066344 A good team you won carried by a 20 5 pudge
                        91444293 Carried by invoker
                        91417532 you won carried your team, the other 4 on your team seem to play nice
                        91344449 Good team you won everyone with good scores
                        91274155 Carried by am
                        91179191 Carried by weaver

                        so of you last 10 games you won 8 and lost 2, i see you are playing in premades but there are premades of only 3.. come on mm is broken becasue you lost 1 game? and the diffrence in gpm and exp at 30 mins was only 2000
                        This guy knows whats up +1

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shadowsong View Post
                          The hero doesn't matter. That game was unwinnable. It was pretty much 5x1.
                          It doesnt matter if i was mid with a semi-carry even, they're such a fail that its just not possible to win the game.

                          One of the reasons why your words doesn't make any sense is because you can easily check my dota buff profile
                          https://dotabuff.com/players/86784474
                          and see that i have no more than 30/40 games in a stack out of 2000 games. Thats pretty much 99.8% of the time I'm playing a solo quque.

                          The other thing that you should know is that i was most probably in the Very High Skill pool before you knew what dota2 was.
                          When I'm not playing meepo and am playing serious heroes I'm in the highest of MM tiers. Constantly play with professionals like:
                          https://dotabuff.com/matches/48910671 ( Bamboe )
                          https://dotabuff.com/matches/49596870 ( Lacoste )
                          Scandal ( A LOT ), Burning, Misery, Dendi, Singsing, Admiral Bulldog and so on ... people that you'll never have the skill level to be in the same game as them. So please ... don't talk about my skill level ... i don't need someone to tell me if I'm "good" or "bad", cuz i already know the answer to that long long long before i started playing meepo and long before i started that thread.

                          I'm just playing meepo almost every game for the last few months , ok ?

                          Back to the game:
                          The point is that even with a meepo , these people just don't scale my skill level AND STILL they're in my game. The two teams are just not balanced, the SS and the Kunka have absolutely no idea what they're doing and the other two are idiot-like. Its not the hero, its the Match Making.

                          There is clearly a huge skill difference between the two teams.

                          And i'm not ASKING you if the game is imbalanced, I'm TELLING the devs that its HIGHLY imbalanced
                          If you'd read forums often you'd know that some % of games will ALWAYS be unbalanced due to:

                          - smurfs
                          - friends using your accounts
                          - queuing with ppl who play poorly
                          - having bad day and slow reactions
                          - randoming / picking bad lineup
                          - being annoyed by smth in real life
                          - having pc or / and isp problems (lags etc)
                          - trying new tactics / builds
                          - learning new things which boost your skill lvl without giving system any informations (for example stack of few friends who play poorly on average but they decide to improve outside of MM games or by playing in smurfs and then come back to their real MM account with more knowledge. This will have huge impact but system wont know about it and that's why it will create more unbalanced game)


                          This is just a few reasons certain amount of games will always be unbalanced. You should keep that in mind that report these games in official thread which may help Devs improving MM in future.
                          Read this if you want to know why so many games is very one sided: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...l=1#post436467

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                          • #14
                            49:30 is not highly imbalanced.
                            If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kryil- View Post
                              49:30 is not highly imbalanced.
                              score doesnt say much, radiant could have wipe every dire early game and destroy all building except for 2 towers near throne and throne itself. Later they could keep suiciding in to enemy fountain while trying to get more kills and die in the proces.
                              Read this if you want to know why so many games is very one sided: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?...l=1#post436467

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