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  • Request to separate Brazil / Rest of south america server.

    I hereby request the creation of a separate server for Brazil players (or a Spanish/Portuguese language filter), and here are my reasons:

    -They cant speak English nor Spanish (useless insulting your mother is a real language now)
    -There are LOTS of Brazil players
    -They can´t / won´t communicate in other language that it´s not Portuguese, and get really angry (and sometimes make fun of you) when you ask them to do so.
    -They are aggressive and extremely xenophobic (i´ve reported hundreds of them for this).

    So...here are my reasons, it´s up to you now.
    I know many of my fellow Spanish-speaking members of this community feel the same way so i hope this solves this problem.

    Thanks in advance.
    IM NOT TALKING ABOUT A REGION LOCK! IF YOU ARE HERE TO SUGGEST THAT, DON´T!
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    Last edited by Kalopinx; 06-07-2013, 01:20 AM. Reason: Title could be misleading. Removed some content due to complains.

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    I have no idea how large the server is. If it is large enough then Valve could potentially split it off. But just making an obvious containment server for Brazil wouldn't solve anything, unless you're advocating for region lock.

    Not only would it be insulting to Brazil, Brazilians could also just join the "rest of South America" server and nothing would change.

    It's like with the Russian server, a lot of Russians join other servers where they think there are better players.

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    • #3
      Yeah, but what im asking for is not a region lock, im asking for a language filter, or a separate server for the rest of south america, because the language barrier is too huge, and the discrimination is even larger.

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      • #4
        They are extremely xenophobic
        i´ve reported hundreds of them for this
        I like the irony here.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kalopinx View Post
          Yeah, but what im asking for is not a region lock, im asking for a language filter, or a separate server for the rest of south america, because the language barrier is too huge, and the discrimination is even larger.
          Like I said, even if you do make a separate server, what's stopping them from just joining your server? Or putting Spanish as their language?

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          • #6
            Nothing would stop them, but given the attitude of Br players, they would prefer playing in their own server.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bleako View Post
              I like the irony here.
              I have to agree with this.

              I'm Brazilian. And I can and will communicate in English if necessary. I never leave or rage quit. I sometimes get mad but I just deal with it and try to instruct my teammates so they don't repeat the mistakes they just did, such as a carry buying back and rushing mid 1v5 against enemy, only to die again and throw the game. When I make mistakes, I apologize and even though some people just go and say "(insert your hero name here), you suck", I just ignore them.

              Look, I know it's tough, but what you're getting confused with is simply that it doesn't matter where the player is from or what language the player speaks: some players are aggressive and hate on others, whine a lot, etc. The fact that this happened while you were playing with Brazilians shouldn't make you think that we're all the same because we're not. It will be unfair to part of us the same as it is unfair to part of other players.

              Making a thread like this just makes you look like you're the xenophobic one even though that's not correct, so all I ask is for you to take some time to think about what I've said (related to how there are shitty people in all servers, speaking all languages), and then come back to see if this is really the solution to anything.
              Last edited by kill; 05-30-2013, 11:33 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kill View Post
                This.

                I'm Brazilian. And I can and will communicate in English if necessary. I never leave or rage quit. I sometimes get mad but I just deal with it and try to instruct my teammates so they don't repeat the mistakes they just did, such as a carry buying back and rushing mid 1v5 against enemy, only to die again and throw the game. When I make mistakes, I apologize and even though some people just go and say "(insert your hero name here), you suck", I just ignore them.

                Look, I know it's tough, but what you're getting confused with is simply that it doesn't matter where the player is from or what language the player speaks: some players are aggressive and hate on others, whine a lot, etc. The fact that this happened while you were playing with Brazilians shouldn't make you think that we're all the same because we're not. It will be unfair to part of us the same as it is unfair to part of other players.

                Making a thread like this just makes you look like you're the xenophobic one even though that's not correct, so all I ask is for you to take some time to think about what I've said (related to how there are shitty people in all servers, speaking all languages), and then come back to see if this is really the solution to anything.
                You are not getting my point of view.
                All im saying is that the language barrier is HUGE, and that MOST Brazilian players wont speak in any other language that is not their own.
                This fact makes playing a team game like DOTA impossible.
                I don´t need to hear about the good or evil people in your/all countries, i know there is bad people everywhere.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kill View Post
                  I have to agree with this.

                  I'm Brazilian. And I can and will communicate in English if necessary. I never leave or rage quit. I sometimes get mad but I just deal with it and try to instruct my teammates so they don't repeat the mistakes they just did, such as a carry buying back and rushing mid 1v5 against enemy, only to die again and throw the game. When I make mistakes, I apologize and even though some people just go and say "(insert your hero name here), you suck", I just ignore them.

                  Look, I know it's tough, but what you're getting confused with is simply that it doesn't matter where the player is from or what language the player speaks: some players are aggressive and hate on others, whine a lot, etc. The fact that this happened while you were playing with Brazilians shouldn't make you think that we're all the same because we're not. It will be unfair to part of us the same as it is unfair to part of other players.

                  Making a thread like this just makes you look like you're the xenophobic one even though that's not correct, so all I ask is for you to take some time to think about what I've said (related to how there are shitty people in all servers, speaking all languages), and then come back to see if this is really the solution to anything.
                  im from argentina and i stopped play on south america due to brazilians. not regarding insults or bad manners but the fact that i dont understand what they type and it bothers me way more when they speak because i got no idea what they are saying. many times i even told them where i was from and that i dont know portuguese, ofc some players kindly used english when talking to me or talking as a team but still there are others who dont and with this new "retarded" mute system im not even thinking on going to SA server because im sure im gona get muted after few games.

                  all i want is another server for sa or atleast a spanish/portuguese filter. i also know some trolls will just mark both but im sure i will find more spanish speaking players than portuguese ones.


                  i can proly say 80% of south america spanish players just queue on us west wich is our only escape from the language barrier but the ones who dont know english either its either playing on brazil and not understanding anything or the same but on us east.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kalopinx View Post
                    the language barrier is HUGE
                    Any language barrier is huge barring the odd chance that your language and your teammate's happen to have a lot of similarities.

                    Originally posted by Kalopinx View Post
                    This fact makes playing a team game like DOTA impossible.
                    Stop playing solo in pubs and/or taking pubs so seriously.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kill View Post
                      I have to agree with this.

                      I'm Brazilian. And I can and will communicate in English if necessary. I never leave or rage quit. I sometimes get mad but I just deal with it and try to instruct my teammates so they don't repeat the mistakes they just did, such as a carry buying back and rushing mid 1v5 against enemy, only to die again and throw the game. When I make mistakes, I apologize and even though some people just go and say "(insert your hero name here), you suck", I just ignore them.

                      Look, I know it's tough, but what you're getting confused with is simply that it doesn't matter where the player is from or what language the player speaks: some players are aggressive and hate on others, whine a lot, etc. The fact that this happened while you were playing with Brazilians shouldn't make you think that we're all the same because we're not. It will be unfair to part of us the same as it is unfair to part of other players.

                      Making a thread like this just makes you look like you're the xenophobic one even though that's not correct, so all I ask is for you to take some time to think about what I've said (related to how there are shitty people in all servers, speaking all languages), and then come back to see if this is really the solution to anything.
                      Actually I disagree.

                      I am Brazilian as well, and although you seem to have a stand up attitude, the truth is most of us do not. Most Brazilian players have a very edgy and toxic attitude, and that's something that only escalates the higher in the MM you go.

                      Even though Portuguese is in certain ways very similar to Spanish, the speed on which Spanish is spoken by most of the native speaking South Americans makes it very difficult to understand, and I have encountered VERY FEW Brazilians actually willing to speak English in the SA servers.

                      I don't think separating and segregating the Brazilians from the South American server is the way to go, not only isn't that Valve's policy on the matter (See the russian issue), but alot of people like yourself would end negatively affected by such an initiative.

                      Yet, I can't think of any downside in adding Spanish to the language box though.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Irrelevante View Post
                        Any language barrier is huge barring the odd chance that your language and your teammate's happen to have a lot of similarities.
                        First of all, our languages are not similar, not by a long shot. I can´t understand anything BR players say.

                        Originally posted by Irrelevante View Post
                        Stop playing solo in pubs and/or taking pubs so seriously.
                        Are you serious with this last one?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kalopinx View Post
                          First of all, our languages are not similar, not by a long shot. I can´t understand anything BR players say.
                          How does that differ from the similarities between English and Russian/Mandarin/German/Spanish?

                          Simply put, you could make the same argument about any other language, singling out Brazilians just makes it look like bias from recent games you've played with them.

                          Originally posted by Kalopinx View Post
                          Are you serious with this last one?
                          Yes, very. Accept the fact that you're playing with anyone from around the globe and that you won't get perfect communication each and every game.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Irrelevante View Post
                            How does that differ from the similarities between English and Russian/Mandarin/German/Spanish?
                            Originally posted by Irrelevante View Post
                            Simply put, you could make the same argument about any other language, singling out Brazilians just makes it look like bias from recent games you've played with them.
                            Well...they all have their own server/language filter except from Spanish and Portuguese...so don't ask me, ask valve.



                            Originally posted by Irrelevante View Post
                            Yes, very. Accept the fact that you're playing with anyone from around the globe and that you won't get perfect communication each and every game.
                            The objective of the game is to beat the other team by coordination and ability, how can we do the first one without the ability to communicate between each other?

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                            • #15
                              Besides, you can take as an example the game league of legends, witch gave the Brazil players their own server, due to this issue

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