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  • #76
    There was a post a few pages back by a valve developer saying that there needs to be at least 10 second delay for the player perspective system to work. How will that affect coaching?

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    • #77
      Originally posted by HMAN911 View Post
      There was a post a few pages back by a valve developer saying that there needs to be at least 10 second delay for the player perspective system to work. How will that affect coaching?
      There needs to be a ten second delay for the Auto Director to work, not player perspective.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Zoid View Post
        There needs to be a ten second delay for the Auto Director to work, not player perspective.
        My mistake, that makes more sense now. Thanks for clearing it up.

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        • #79
          Only delayed spectator and like nytrik said coaching mode.


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          • #80
            remove minimap when coaching for coaches, just show items, skills, stats, and hero portrait. the camera view should be realtime player perspective (locked and 0 delay), and the fogs/vision just for the player's team he's coaching. and ofc VOIP. that way there should be no maphacks or free calling miss or something. for other spectators, the 2min delay should still be applied. so only coaches have real time access to the game, but still very limited.

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            • #82
              -1, map hackers.
              Let's put a finger on that face !

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              • #83
                Why are you guys so closed to this? HoN's spectator/mentor system works great!, why not copy it?

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                • #84
                  I agree with this, but only in the context of a teaching mode. The camera should be locked to the player perspective of the person you are teaching, not just fog of war, but the camera and everything.

                  However something that should be added is the ability for the teacher to ping anywhere on the screen. This way you are pinging in screen space (as opposed to just the map) so that you can show the player things like how to navigate the store, where the donkey and quick TP buttons are, etc. The ping should be visually different from any of the other in game effects so it isn't confused with map pings, spell effects, etc.

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                  • #85
                    Yes, but only at "player perspective"
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                    • #86
                      Bad idea, unless its for a player vs ai game. Playing with someone as another eye is an advantage. Sometimes players may miss something on their screen that your "friend" may catch.

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                      • #87
                        You can't "couch" vs AI, and you can only effectively "couch" in real time. Also, sometimes in real life there are two persons on one computer, either "equally" skilled or the one couching the other. You can't prevent that from happening, and it's not bad at all. That's why +1
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                        [Tweak] Make Refresher viable for Venomancer!!!

                        [Aghanim's Suggestion] Sniper: missile damages units it pierces through
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                        • #88
                          I would support this if:

                          - You were locked to the players camera you're spectating (cant move it at all)
                          - The minimap is completely blocked out.

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                          • #89
                            You people have to be fucking kidding me. HOW IS THIS AT ALL MAP HACKING?! He explictly said it would ONLY show your friends team's fow and NOT the enemies. If you honestly think people will be downloading hacks to somehow take away the fog and then tell them where the enemies are then people must be pretty fucking desperate.

                            The entire purpose of someone spectating a live game, even if it's 5-10 seconds delay, is to give the person insight on what to buy or when to push or farm jungle. New players don't have a sense of what they should be doing and when at first, and this would enable them to have a better idea of what to do.

                            If anyone says this crap is maphacking you're out of your mind. Not everyone uses shit like this to hack and cheat.

                            +1 because this isn't and wouldnt be an exploit
                            Last edited by Viperr101; 02-28-2012, 07:33 PM.

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                            • #90
                              Only player perspective should be on (the player being your friend of course). I think that would work nicely.

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