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Stalking guide - How to spectate people outside your friend list.

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  • #61
    @ Blah278: already been suggested months ago, chill out, its still in beta, dotaTV will get better with support for ad space and audio channels in game, just relax, and be patient

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    • #62
      I have to say I agree with GoDz here. I don't want to comment on the commercial/casting aspect, but as far as privacy goes, it's an issue, and in my opinion should be addressed. The option to have truly private games should be there. I suspect that this is an oversight on Valve's part, and will likely be put on their to-do list when they find this thread. As far as stalking pros goes, I don't really see anything wrong with it. Valve should just let you search for a player and spectate them to make it simpler.

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      • #63
        Viewer limit removed, slap in the face for streamers.

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        • #64
          Gabe Newell interview just use "stream" instead of piracy

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          • #65
            Agree with Blah278. Watching SMM'09 live on GarenaTV >>>>>>> Casters

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            • #66
              Originally posted by MrUrKe View Post
              Viewer limit removed, slap in the face for streamers.
              How about they put some effort in and give people a reason to watch their stream, we don't need lazy streamers who think just streaming their games is good enough.

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              • #67
                AWESOME thx for share

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                • #68
                  more like a subscriber tab would be awesome! +1 idea for tht!

                  I can play these heroes all day long.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by GoDz View Post
                    Are you guys daft? There won't be a single dota2 tournament with good prize money if everyone can watch the game through the client. Viewers on streams where you can play ads and promote the tournament sponsors is ESSENTIAL for any successful tournament. Otherwise the prizepool for tournaments like "The Defense" would be $100, not $10,000....

                    Stop being selfish and realize the games are private for a reason, yes we want more viewers, that's why we stream, to get viewers, we aren't doing it so we can have 5 viewers, but at the same time when running a tournaments, viewers on streams are essential. Viewers in the Dota2 client don't give ANYTHING back to the tournament.

                    Also, what happens when someone re-streams the game who doesn't have right? So someone uninvolved with the tournament MAKES MONEY OFF the tournament they had no right to cover? The games are private for a reason and you guys should stop making clueless suggestions.

                    Also, that doesn't fully answer the question. The method used to find the "DotaTV ip" involves sending a request to the ACTUAL GAME IP, when you try to "join game in progress" you are attempting to join the IP the game is being played on (NOT THE DOTATV IP), you use that to obtain the ip and get the dotatv ip, but it is putting stress on the game that can cause lag. The actual dotatv observers may not cause the lag, but for all you guys know attempting to connect to the game in progress (and being rejected for not being in the lobby) could cause problems. Nothing is confirmed, I can only speculate of course, but regardless, games are suddenly becoming very laggy in tournaments over the past few days (But not in match making...) so obviously there is some issue with this causing lag.
                    Then Valve needs to make it it so that ads and shit can be on the Dota2 client, because i'm sick of the high bandwidth cost of watching livestreams, i'm sick of having to watch a single player without knowing the enemy's items, their skills, where their position is, etc. I admit watching Dendi play is awesome but it's SO much better in sourcetv because it's actual highdef with no bandwidth costs (i cant watch livestreams in high definition and i can barely watch 480p on my connection). I'd be fine with watching ads, and besides, most people watching streams have adblock anyway. The fact of the point is, Valve made DotaTV/SourceTV we should be able to use. Streamers getting money is great, and needed to keep up their streams but the fact is the way livestreaming works is illogical compared to how SourceTV works. Replays and whatnot are essential to the new scene of streaming, and anyone who dismisses SourceTV as the incorrect method is a fool, this is the advancement of streaming, and you're too scared to change?

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                    • #70
                      The only reason people stream is to make money with ads.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by jazzy View Post
                        Then Valve needs to make it it so that ads and shit can be on the Dota2 client, because i'm sick of the high bandwidth cost of watching livestreams, i'm sick of having to watch a single player without knowing the enemy's items, their skills, where their position is, etc. I admit watching Dendi play is awesome but it's SO much better in sourcetv because it's actual highdef with no bandwidth costs (i cant watch livestreams in high definition and i can barely watch 480p on my connection). I'd be fine with watching ads, and besides, most people watching streams have adblock anyway. The fact of the point is, Valve made DotaTV/SourceTV we should be able to use. Streamers getting money is great, and needed to keep up their streams but the fact is the way livestreaming works is illogical compared to how SourceTV works. Replays and whatnot are essential to the new scene of streaming, and anyone who dismisses SourceTV as the incorrect method is a fool, this is the advancement of streaming, and you're too scared to change?
                        absolutely agreed. i actually enjoyed watching dota when it was using garenatv instead of 1 streamer. i find it much better to see what i want to see, instead of following a caster who often misses many things. i guess its time for valve to implement ads in dotatv. the spectator system valve has is amazing, far better than any game's spectator system i've come across.

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