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  • tournament replays

    so atm, all are available are vods. even after the replay ID is posted, the access is denied

    for example

    http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/replays/55204

    in the future, are we gonna be able to watch full replays like we did in dota1?

  • #2
    Push!

    This is really something that in my eyes does hurt Dota 2's development.
    Put aside the fact that new casters that want to start casting cant get a hold of ANY replays. Not even low level competitive play. I tried reaching teams of small tournaments with perhaps a lot of so called "Tier2 - Tier3" teams and unless somebody is nice to upload a replay file you have NO chance of casting anything.
    In addition to that Dota1 was so brilliant because you were able to take a peek into replays just like that, for a few minutes, parse them, follow a certain hero if you wanted to learn how to play him in certain situations, etc, etc.

    This is really needed, and I do not understand why there isn't at least something like a "shared-replay pool" or something.... :/

    Any thoughts?

    Edit: Thinking about it, why not have an auto-save of replays that are started in tournament version or something. I mean there has to be some sort of filter so not all games that are used for scrim purposes are saved, but it would be fancy
    Last edited by VashTheStampede; 05-04-2012, 06:08 AM.

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    • #3
      +1

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      • #4
        +1, so true

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        • #5
          Tournaments needs advertisements, they won't get that if the replay is available to everyone

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          • #6
            oh, I'm sure they will. Tell me why wouldn't they?

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            • #7
              You can show advertisements on a stream
              you can't show them on a replay

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              • #8
                They could just release the replays a day later or whatever they want to do, if the problem is people not watching the stream.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VashTheStampede View Post
                  Push!

                  This is really something that in my eyes does hurt Dota 2's development.
                  Put aside the fact that new casters that want to start casting cant get a hold of ANY replays. Not even low level competitive play. I tried reaching teams of small tournaments with perhaps a lot of so called "Tier2 - Tier3" teams and unless somebody is nice to upload a replay file you have NO chance of casting anything.
                  In addition to that Dota1 was so brilliant because you were able to take a peek into replays just like that, for a few minutes, parse them, follow a certain hero if you wanted to learn how to play him in certain situations, etc, etc.

                  This is really needed, and I do not understand why there isn't at least something like a "shared-replay pool" or something.... :/

                  Any thoughts?

                  Edit: Thinking about it, why not have an auto-save of replays that are started in tournament version or something. I mean there has to be some sort of filter so not all games that are used for scrim purposes are saved, but it would be fancy
                  The problem is in broadcasters. For some reason they don't upload replays... Not only broadcasters, but anyone who was in the lobby could upload replay (similar to wc3), but they don't for some reason. I hope that Valve can do something about this, so that those replays are public (maybe some option which would be chosen while creating lobby, which would allow that replay to be download via matchID).

                  Imho, replay system in wc3 is one of the worst among all games, not to mention spectating system which is almost non-existent.

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                  • #10
                    stream and replays are 2 different things. people who wants to watch replays usually wants to look at some details, learn something - they will still watch streams for entertainment.
                    Everyone prefers streams with commentary over row replay (when it comes to having fun) - so dont worry, advertisements will continue to work as intended.

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                    • #11
                      No that is simply wrong
                      Why should anyone watch a stream, when they have the replay(and the replay most probably also has the sounds of the caster).
                      If they will release replays, they will release them months after the tournament finished.

                      It would be the worst thing if Valve allowed to make every tournament replay downloadable.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Yoshi- View Post
                        No that is simply wrong
                        Why should anyone watch a stream, when they have the replay(and the replay most probably also has the sounds of the caster).
                        If they will release replays, they will release them months after the tournament finished.

                        It would be the worst thing if Valve allowed to make every tournament replay downloadable.
                        Your post makes no sense. In every competative game you can download replay of a pro game and watch it as soon as the game is finished.

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                        • #13
                          Okay than link me to the replay of bisu vs flash SPL Final 2012

                          OH WAIT THERE IS NONE

                          Give me the replays of NGF for dota1

                          Oh wait they are not released yet.


                          Please don't make shit up
                          In every competive games replays gets released after several weeks/months or never

                          Even in sc2 ipl waited like one month until they released the replays.

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                          • #14
                            I'd love to be able to watch replays by myself...i don't get why noone releases them.
                            Perhaps...if you find a pro-gamer profile, you can see all his games that were played in the public matchmaking system, and that's all. Why don't allow us to see private games too? :/

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                            • #15
                              Why can't you view replays of private games? It's simple really: They're private. Unless they're made public by those responsible for the games you're tough out of luck. It's not in Valve's hands.

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