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  • #16
    Originally posted by Yoshi- View Post
    Why should anyone watch a stream, when they have the replay(and the replay most probably also has the sounds of the caster).
    That makes absolutely zero sense. The replay is a glorified text file. What does the caster have to do with the replay? In any game ever?

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    • #17
      Because that is the way how dota2 replays works?
      It can contain the voices of the casters

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      • #18
        Originally posted by 8e8 View Post
        Why can't you view replays of private games? It's simple really: They're private. Unless they're made public by those responsible for the games you're tough out of luck. It's not in Valve's hands.
        League games are not private, I agree that practice games should stay private but league games shouldn't be private. I want to be able to download in-game demo of game that I couldn't watch (or I want to rewatch it or something) live and don't want to be forced to watch some stupid VoD.
        @Yoshi-
        www.hltv.org <- CS 1.6 website. You can download demos as soon as the game is finished. Doesn't matter if it is LAN or online competition. This is how EVERY COMPETITIVE GAME should be like.
        The reason why some games don't have all the replays is because it's not automatic, but players or someone who was spectator has to save that replay and upload it for other users. Since, DOTA2 has automated way of saving replays/demos, I don't see the reason why we aren't able to download those.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by vlada View Post
          League games are not private, I agree that practice games should stay private but league games shouldn't be private. I want to be able to download in-game demo of game that I couldn't watch (or I want to rewatch it or something) live and don't want to be forced to watch some stupid VoD.
          @Yoshi-
          www.hltv.org <- CS 1.6 website. You can download demos as soon as the game is finished. Doesn't matter if it is LAN or online competition. This is how EVERY COMPETITIVE GAME should be like.
          The reason why some games don't have all the replays is because it's not automatic, but players or someone who was spectator has to save that replay and upload it for other users. Since, DOTA2 has automated way of saving replays/demos, I don't see the reason why we aren't able to download those.
          +1

          I like a possible solution like this.

          Really needed.

          Edit: I do not see any reason why there should be a loss of profit for casters. I will always watch Casters and Streamers, no matter if replays are available or not. But there is so much more people can do with replays by themselves, and they still will keep watching live games...

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          • #20
            I want tournament replays too

            I can't see anything I want to see from vods
            Last edited by smoto; 05-07-2012, 06:50 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by vlada View Post
              League games are not private, I agree that practice games should stay private but league games shouldn't be private. I want to be able to download in-game demo of game that I couldn't watch (or I want to rewatch it or something) live and don't want to be forced to watch some stupid VoD.
              @Yoshi-
              www.hltv.org <- CS 1.6 website. You can download demos as soon as the game is finished. Doesn't matter if it is LAN or online competition. This is how EVERY COMPETITIVE GAME should be like.
              The reason why some games don't have all the replays is because it's not automatic, but players or someone who was spectator has to save that replay and upload it for other users. Since, DOTA2 has automated way of saving replays/demos, I don't see the reason why we aren't able to download those.
              Oh that why there are no replays of scbw(the most evolved esport ever), cause they are just too fucking dumb to upload the replays. Thank you for your insight.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Yoshi- View Post
                Oh that why there are no replays of scbw(the most evolved esport ever), cause they are just too fucking dumb to upload the replays. Thank you for your insight.
                Is it really necessary to swear and basically ridicule somebody who is bringing up an actual constructive idea?

                ...

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                • #23
                  For the love of dota2, please enable tournament replays. Not everyone have good and strong internet to watch every single VoDs out there..

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Yoshi- View Post
                    Because that is the way how dota2 replays works?
                    It can contain the voices of the casters
                    By the way you asked the question we can deduce that you have no clue what you're talking about. I can't even begin to understand why you would think external caster audio recordings (which for some games, there would be many) are packaged with the replays. That's just... I... No.

                    Originally posted by vlada View Post
                    League games are not private, I agree that practice games should stay private but league games shouldn't be private. I want to be able to download in-game demo of game that I couldn't watch (or I want to rewatch it or something) live and don't want to be forced to watch some stupid VoD.
                    @Yoshi-
                    www.hltv.org <- CS 1.6 website. You can download demos as soon as the game is finished. Doesn't matter if it is LAN or online competition. This is how EVERY COMPETITIVE GAME should be like.
                    The reason why some games don't have all the replays is because it's not automatic, but players or someone who was spectator has to save that replay and upload it for other users. Since, DOTA2 has automated way of saving replays/demos, I don't see the reason why we aren't able to download those.
                    League games (especially league games) are private. If they weren't then they would never get started because people would be flooding the lobby. The consequence of that means making the games private is mandatory, and as such, we don't have public access to the replays. Until a system or alternative is developed for this then, as i said, tough luck.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 8e8 View Post
                      By the way you asked the question we can deduce that you have no clue what you're talking about. I can't even begin to understand why you would think external caster audio recordings (which for some games, there would be many) are packaged with the replays. That's just... I... No.


                      League games (especially league games) are private. If they weren't then they would never get started because people would be flooding the lobby. The consequence of that means making the games private is mandatory, and as such, we don't have public access to the replays. Until a system or alternative is developed for this then, as i said, tough luck.
                      Unfortunately this seems to be true.

                      The question is if it is possible to have some option of hosting the game version linked to an automatic pool of saved "public-made" replays. (e.g. Tournament version)

                      And yes, I do realize that its not that simple ... Just saying, it would be freakin sweet if somebody would come up with some idea to make it possible...

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                      • #26
                        Should be a switch in private games to allow replays that is enabled by default. I think that's the closest you'll get to this.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 8e8 View Post
                          By the way you asked the question we can deduce that you have no clue what you're talking about. I can't even begin to understand why you would think external caster audio recordings (which for some games, there would be many) are packaged with the replays. That's just... I... No.


                          League games (especially league games) are private. If they weren't then they would never get started because people would be flooding the lobby. The consequence of that means making the games private is mandatory, and as such, we don't have public access to the replays. Until a system or alternative is developed for this then, as i said, tough luck.
                          I thought we are discussing replays in this thread. So, let's try again:
                          League games' replays shouldn't be private.

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                          • #28
                            So how do we know if developers are reading it and at what point should i stop pushing this?

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                            • #29
                              One of the big issues with the casting scene for Dota 2 is that it is nearly impossible to get into. This is due to the limitation that is placed on casters by the replay system. Being able to cast scrims or tournament games would be a very good way for the casting scene for Dota 2 to grow. If the casting scene grows that means that Dota 2 gets more free advertisement and more players will join.

                              With the current system you have to have an organization behind you in order to even have a hope of casting a tournament or a scrim. There are too many blocks stopping new casters.

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                              • #30
                                very agree with this thread..
                                tournament replays on dota 1 are much better than dota 2 so fix it
                                its just a simple thing..
                                enable the tournament replays, so the skills of dota 2 player can be improved also...
                                if the live games of a tournament is disabled.. i think downloading the replay is more than enough
                                Last edited by moe2licious; 05-20-2012, 12:04 PM.

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