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Make old paid tournaments available for free

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  • Make old paid tournaments available for free

    For tournaments that are available for purchase in-client, release the replays for free once the tournament has finished. Say 2-4 weeks later.

  • #2
    +1 for free stuff

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    • #3
      I would say a period of 2-3 months. This makes the tournament more "old" and makes more sense for free release.

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      • #4
        I would say, just drop the price by 50-75%

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        • #5
          2-3 months seems more adequate.
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          • #6
            Stupid idea, you can already watch most games for free through the caster's stream and vods. The whole point of the tournament tickets is to support the tournament organizers, if they were free afterwards then some people wouldn't bother paying and just wait. I agree with maybe reducing the price a significant time after though. Don't be stingey and think before you make these pointless and dumb threads please.

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            • #7
              I'd say it's a good idea because you can already watch most games free through caster's stream and VODs. Being able to watch tournament replays freely would also serve to boost the overall competitive scene by attracting more of an audience, rather than narrowing it down just to those who can and are willing to pay or those who go out of their way to find and watch the free streams. Watching replays has always been a huge part of the dota (and valve games, ie: CS) community. Being able to watch and analyze replays of some of the best players in the world using a certain hero or executing a certain strategy can be a hugely invaluable learning tool. To me, this is where the most value lies with in-game replays, not just enjoying it as I would with watching other spectator sports. Sometimes, I couldn't even care less who wins, I just want to see how a certain hero is played well in a certain lineup.

              Paying to watch the tournament live, or recently, in the often higher quality and camera controllable in-client manner is an understandable way for them to make some extra income. However, after-the-fact taking away that huge asset from players to be able to analyze how pros play a certain hero at their best, is a huge step backwards in a highly strategic game with an already harsh learning curve IMO.

              Tournament organizers also aren't solely reliant on the income from these ticket sales to survive either, else we wouldn't have had any tournaments (or DOTA 2, for that matter) in the first place. There's also still inherently a huge incentive to buy the tickets just to watch the game live as a spectator sport, it's why pay-per-view boxing matches and the like work. I really think they're being the stingy ones here and overall hurting their own game if the replays are never freely available. If supporting the tournaments was really the issue, they could still supplement their incomes with us watching an ad while we download a replay, with an unobtrusive pop-up banner, or by accepting donations to continue bringing us more of the tournaments we enjoyed. My point is that there's other and better ways for them to earn money while still preserving replays as a widely accessible learning medium.
              Last edited by rawrrrz; 11-22-2012, 07:10 PM.

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              • #8
                +1 for the free release of replays after a couple months

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                • #9
                  +1 But dude...your avatar...once again I shall not sleep.
                  Originally posted by vladhood
                  boy im glad all these qualified and educated game designers have come to the forums to help dota 2 grow

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                  • #10
                    there are already 1000s of pro replays available for free - https://dotabuff.com/players

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                    • #11
                      The whole idea of the system is to support the organizers (and Dota 2 too )
                      So free is a bad idea, but yeah, they could drop the prices a few weeks later after a tournament ending.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fluffeeh View Post
                        The whole idea of the system is to support the organizers (and Dota 2 too )
                        So free is a bad idea, but yeah, they could drop the prices a few weeks later after a tournament ending.
                        Let's be honest, noone will buy a 3 weeks old tournament pass. Dropping the price by 50% or more would be ok

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Radio View Post
                          Let's be honest, noone will buy a 3 weeks old tournament pass. Dropping the price by 50% or more would be ok
                          I bought a 6 months old pass

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fluffeeh View Post
                            I bought a 6 months old pass
                            which obviously means that everyone did so

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