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  • Tutorial needs to be improved

    newbies are really stupid. HOW STUPID CAN THEY GET?

    well if you ask me their gonna have a bad time and quit dota 2 quickly and move to league of legend. *antimage laughing*

    Nerfing

    -Riki's cast range needs to be reduced and his as speed
    -Legion Commander is suspending suprise noob and 40+ duel damage or 25% cd reduction needs rework

    Axe needs his mobility reduction also his cast range should be a talent tree

    Chaos Knight needs his armor debuff increased and reduce his +2 stun to a talebt tree to 4+ stun. Because he's already op with his illusions.

    Pl is super weak also ember needs more buff. They aren't that op a bit of extra damage and bkb will crush them.

    Techie's cast range needs rework he's 1k cast range on forcestaff needs to stop. Super annoying everyone will be dumb after playing againts a techie. Who gave him that much cast range?

    Bloodseeker needs his ult movement damage reduced. most annoying thing ever.

    Lifestealer is seductively significant to 5 vs 1. and he can just ult to an enemy-alied creep to escape. need his base armor to be a talent tree

    Pudge is terrifying reedit his hook animation so newbies can dodge it (but how about arc warden's spark wraith exactly)

    Meepo is Meepo. lol what you expect



    they literally don't know how to teamwork (like saving a team, how to stop a carry from farming, warding, how to focus on what to kill first or assist an ally who needs help on killing a hero that is very hard to kill like a 400 duel victory LC, a rikimaru who is cancer and a Slark who is super cancer not even a techie planting wards for his green bombs *they don't buy sentry wards because of the new patch* also they think that THE GREEN BOMBS CANNOT BE SEEN THROUGH WARDS. tell them to teamwork if they don't then tell them to get a life.

    can you at least teach them basic mechanics on how to save a hero or how to teamup as a team and show what dota 2 really is l
    Last edited by DioX; 03-13-2017, 02:19 PM.

  • #2
    (I Know the thread is a bit old)
    Tutorials are mostly based on Implemented AI (Default BoT) which don't get updates (See bot Forums) so don't expect much from newbies. Besides the play style of BoT are hugely different from normal human matches so playing against BoT wont help much.

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    • #3
      Well 1k MMR players play differently than high MMR players. Should we just put newbies at the highest MMR because 1k MMR matches won't help newbies learn the game that much? I always find this logic of people learning bad habits with bot matches fascinating when the same applies to people when they start at lower MMR where the playstyle is very different from higher MMR.

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      • #4
        The MMR don't JUMP from 1k to 7k (except for account buyers!). anyone who wants to reach that level should play hundreds of matches in 2k, 3k etc. in these matches they probably will adopt to new play-style of higher MMR. The point is there is a JUMP from "AI" to "Human". even if you play years against AI (which i did, because of shitty ping in my country), u wont survive competitive. Thats why normal Non-ranked matches are available.
        Last edited by fandogh; 05-09-2017, 12:07 AM.

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        • #5
          I play AI for the most part and it only takes a game or two for me to adapt to PvP when I play with a friend. The fact remains that people at lower MMR has different builds, team comp and playstyle and you will get crushed as you slowly climb up if you get used to that playstyle. But since you admit people can adapt as they play the game, that's no different from people jumping from AI to PvP. I would argue starting at AI means you learn the basics better because no one is pressuring you and you can also adjust the difficulty to suit your capability. I would rather take AI players in PvP than newbies that has no idea about the game and totally useless. At least AI players have an idea of how to do stuff.

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