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This is why your mute/report system is FLAWED

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  • This is why your mute/report system is FLAWED

    Things like this, and points that other forum users have made is the reason you need to work on the report system. Putting the power to mute another player for varying spans of time into the hands of Dota players is a poor choice, because this genre of games, more so than others, provokes a bad attitude. You have a 300k unmannered players, leaving them to control each other is stupid. I'll use my own recent game as an example:



    I am playing as sniper. We've been winning pretty bad at this point, with me sitting at a 18/2 score. Just prior to this we took mid and bottom rax, and Weaver tells them to "stop trying" after magnus chased him from their base up to river before giving up. This is why the system is flawed. A player like magnus can just report someone whenever he feels mad about something. So he does so here for no reason.




    I proceed to laugh at the situation and get him to respond to me. He reports me too, for no good reason. Now I'm sitting at a 48 ban, with 30 hours left on it.

    This is not fair. I play in the very high bracket, where people are usually somewhat good. If I can not communicate with anyone, I can not tell them what I'm going to pick, my choice of items or ask them to gank/initiate with me. For the next 30 hours, I will be a brick on my team and lose the games I play - All because some magnus player got mad for losing.

    Now you claim you can not be banned for one game, as several reports from one game does not stack. But if this person can trigger my ban, the rest of my bans could have been recieved on equally unfair terms. The Dota2 team does not moderate the reports. You put faith in the players, when you should not.

    There are some things you can do to improve this system. Often reports are made in a fit of anger by the enemy team/player. Instead of completely blocking the reported players communication you should limit it to alleged infraction: Say you get reported by the enemy team for whatever. Why should this hinder you from talking to your own team in the future? Just block your ability to talk in /all, because more often than not a report is just a means to get back at someone who you lost to. Now on the other hand, if you are reported by your own team, it is safe to assume your infraction was probably pretty bad. Flaming your own team, purposedly wrecking it for them and what have you. You should weigh reports differently, depending on where they came from, exactly because you are trying to make a system to control players that notoriously have the worst manners of any game genre.

    So in conclusion, weigh your reports differently and the outcome. A full communication block does not only harm yourself, but your future team mates. Alternatively expand the report button, so you can designate exactly which channels the infraction was made through - For instance spamming pings (temporarily limit your pinging), cursing at enemy team (hinder all chat) and so on.
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  • #2
    You are volatile and rather rude. You got muted for a reason. The mute system works.
    Pro MUTE System
    • If you complain about it, you're one of the people who have taken swift punishment from it. Proving it works.
    • If you keep arguing against it, you're a repeat offender, proving it works again.
    • ONLY REPEAT OFFENDERS continue to fight it.
    • Thank you Valve! Finally a system that shuts bad attitudes, big egos and ignorance down like a bad habit.

    Do you disagree? Please let me know why HERE!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by D.E.A. View Post
      You are volatile and rather rude. You got muted for a reason. The mute system works.
      You are judgemental and wrong. And you fail to address any of my points.

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      • #4
        This message is hidden because D.E.A. is on your ignore list.

        Only the 3rd person I muted in my 6 years of dota.

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        • #5
          Why did you taunt your enemy? Was that really necessary to rub it in their faces that you have won?

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          • #6
            He's quite clearly a troll, but the issue is that Valve probably share the same opinion. It's blind.

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            • #7
              One report does not mute you, you flamed before and many players reported you.
              And there have to be at least 10 reports or something to get reported because many players threatend to report me and i still have not a single minute of mute ban.

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              • #8
                I can only agree.

                Its not the fact that people get muted thats the big problem, its the automated part thats messed up.
                It dont have to have any validity whatsoever, blank reports = thank you for banning this dude
                giving kids real weapons in the sandbox and someone is bound to get hurt.

                @klaarnou i have 2 muted on the forum and D.E.A is 1 of em, maybe we should make a "We hate D.E.A guild" or "Cookies if you get D.E.A muted"

                have a nice day//insanisane

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                • #9
                  i have 2 muted on the forum and D.E.A is 1 of em, maybe we should make a "We hate D.E.A guild" or "Cookies if you get D.E.A muted"
                  So you mute someone because he doesn´t share your opinion, quiet ironic don´t you think.

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                  • #10
                    @D.E.A. So saying hey magnus is rude to you?
                    Last edited by 1nsane000; 07-01-2013, 08:21 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Animations View Post
                      So you mute someone because he doesn´t share your opinion, quiet ironic don´t you think.
                      He muted DEA because half the forum has him muted, simply because he never has a point, just like now all he ever does is troll
                      Make a NON automated report system.
                      I would rather wait 10 minutes for a balanced, fun and exciting match that will last 1+ hours. Than wait 10 seconds for a poorly balanced crapmatch that will end in 30- minutes
                      Valve, How I'm I supposed to respect certain boundaries to prevent a mute if I dont know them because they are different for each and every person on each and every game I play?
                      The only type of player that dislikes having his stats public are the players that suck and cheaters

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                      • #12
                        he showed emotions, clearly he is guilty!!!

                        deserved ban.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Animations View Post
                          One report does not mute you, you flamed before and many players reported you.
                          And there have to be at least 10 reports or something to get reported because many players threatend to report me and i still have not a single minute of mute ban.
                          I am not saying I am a saint. I am saying you can not tell how many of these report were legitimate. That is a huge problem.

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                          • #14
                            every players think that one instance of 'bad behavior', under their discretion, is enough for a report. that is another message valve makes.
                            'OMFG HE SAID GG, MUST REPORT'
                            'OH GAWD HE IS TAUNTING ME, I BUTTHURT MUST REPORT'
                            its already been like this for awhile, but its also like this now:
                            'HE FUCKNIG TALKED REPORT HIS ASS'

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shmendrich View Post
                              He muted DEA because half the forum has him muted, simply because he never has a point, just like now all he ever does is troll
                              he's the first person I muted too. it's not only that he's a troll and doesn't have a point/says nothing. It's cause he's an idiot and spammer. He spams all topics with same shit...

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