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  • Winning a game = Leave

    Hello,

    I've a problem with my last game. I've "carried" the game witch Lich, but finally received a 'Leave' rather a victory. I've been AFK 5 minutes (Phone) but the game lasted 45 minutes and I was moving at its start and at the end (some actions and final push).

    The screen :

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    My xp/min is normal, I've finished the game and have decent stats (12/2/16). So I think the "leave system" has a problem with people who are afk 3-5 minutes and continue to play after without any loose of connection.

    So I am a little frustrated to receive a penalty as I do not think that this situation is an offense.
    Last edited by Kastor; 01-21-2012, 09:50 AM.

  • #2
    5 minutes of AFK = abandon

    People who receive an abandon get a loss regardless of what happens, it's what happens for leaving your team hanging without you for 5 minutes, even if you did carry and win it for your team. Sorry, that's just how it works.

    Quoting a valve developer

    Originally posted by EricTams View Post
    Here are the rules for what happens when there is a leaver in a game:

    Games with the wrong number of players at start never count - not really a problem any more but used to happen occasionally.

    If there is a leaver before any action has occurred then wins/losses are not recorded. The exception to this is if the team with the leaver manages to win 4v5 then the game will still count (this doesn't happen very often and when it does those guys deserve the win).

    If there is a leaver later in the game then wins and losses will be awarded appropriately (the leaver always loses). People can leave if they don't want to play 4v5 and they will not get an abandon point. People who leave after this point will not automatically get a loss like the first leaver but will get a win or a loss based on the outcome of the game.

    Let me know if you have a MatchId where this isn't the case and I'll take a look.

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    • #3
      Sorry, but this game didn't work like your quote.

      1. I didn't leave the game but was AFK some minutes
      2. The game staid on the game display ; no lobby menu.
      3. I've received a victory in my "Detailed Stats" (from 10/1 to 11/1 with Lich) but a leave in the global stats and no victory.


      So it seems to be strange. The MatchID is 3663762.

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      • #4
        working as intended. your most played hero stat will still count as win. but not in the total win/loss for game stat. and as prev guy said. afk leads to abandon.5minute afk = abandon even if u did continue to play after.hope this clarify your confusion
        "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, but Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."

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        • #5
          Thanks for your answer.

          I'm really sad to have a leave for a short phone call :'(

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          • #6
            well,it wasnt that short,since u got tagged as afk

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            • #7
              I know you didn't leave the game, but leaver can be ~ to afker, since regardless they both receive abandons. Just like it was in DotA, if you afk 5 minutes, your team has the option to kick you, in here you just receive an abandon, and regardless if you stay or not after the initial 5 minutes, you'll get a loss, but you can still stay and help your team win :].

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              • #8
                deserved abandonment. noone cares how useful you were, when you were there. You still had your team play a 4vs5 for more than 5 minutes.
                specs for bugreports:
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                • #9
                  geez.easy guys. this fella just need some answer
                  "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, but Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."

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                  • #10
                    AFK. Sucks, yes, but that's the game. Feel sorry for you.

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                    • #11
                      I was afk for more than 5 minutes and nothing happened. I still have 0 abandons.

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                      • #12
                        You deserved it tbh.

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                        • #13
                          Yup

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                          • #14
                            I think there should be some tweaking to this system still. Especially in cases like this. But it might be an argument AFK is just as bad as abandons, and they want to combat abandons...sooo. In this case AFK: Abandon From Keyboard.

                            I could see them adding an AFK system where a bot takes over, but doesn't buy anything with your gold, and relinquishes control once you've returned.
                            For instance, a button on the scoreboard where your mute button would be. Toggle button that says AFK.
                            This way, if you know you'll be back during the game, you can toggle the afk feature and allow a bot to take over for you. However, if you don't return before the last 10 minutes of the match, it gets counted as an abandon. Lets face it, bots aren't human players and won't ever be as good at coordinating with human players.

                            The idea of abandon is leaving your team without a 5th player for some minutes, regardless of afk or disconnect.
                            You're not doing anything for your team, you're just idle while your team is fighting. That's just as useless as someone who did abandon, even if they reconnected after the 5 minute timer finished, they were gone long enough to change the balance of the game.
                            Not that I'm saying what you did, in this case answer the phone, was wrong. It's just creating unbalance in a game.
                            This ain't ova.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by squinte View Post
                              I think there should be some tweaking to this system still. Especially in cases like this. But it might be an argument AFK is just as bad as abandons, and they want to combat abandons...sooo. In this case AFK: Abandon From Keyboard.

                              I could see them adding an AFK system where a bot takes over, but doesn't buy anything with your gold, and relinquishes control once you've returned.
                              For instance, a button on the scoreboard where your mute button would be. Toggle button that says AFK.
                              This way, if you know you'll be back during the game, you can toggle the afk feature and allow a bot to take over for you. However, if you don't return before the last 10 minutes of the match, it gets counted as an abandon. Lets face it, bots aren't human players and won't ever be as good at coordinating with human players.

                              The idea of abandon is leaving your team without a 5th player for some minutes, regardless of afk or disconnect.
                              You're not doing anything for your team, you're just idle while your team is fighting. That's just as useless as someone who did abandon, even if they reconnected after the 5 minute timer finished, they were gone long enough to change the balance of the game.
                              Not that I'm saying what you did, in this case answer the phone, was wrong. It's just creating unbalance in a game.
                              I'm pretty sure IceFrog already planned on having bots control your hero after you've gone from the game, not sure if that included AFK though.

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