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  • Hero performance list broken?

    It's saying that my Dragon Knight without wins is better than my invoker full of wins and no losses. (and before the patch invoker had all 5 bars, and now is ~3 bars)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/swordzzzzz

  • #2
    Same to me... They need to fix it !

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    • #3
      How many times it has to be said?

      Hero performance has NOTHING to do with Wins/Losses.

      It represents how you play that hero, not how mayn times your team won. You can play very good and your team still lose, or the opposite,k depending upon your teammates and the enemy team, thus, Wins/Losses have nothing to do with your performance with a hero.
      Storm[HUN] ~~~ Sic itur ad astra, per aspera. | [Dotabuff]

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      • #4
        True,but i'm fairly certain i can judge my performance..the old bars were on par with my judgement most of the time..now...it is just reversed..my worst heroes are my top rated.something is now working ok methinks

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        • #5
          I think simply the "bar" was raised. Hierarchy is almost the same, but like Lone Druid of mine was at peak, no its missing one bar. Or someone overperformed my Lone Druid by miles xD

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dziubelis View Post
            I think simply the "bar" was raised. Hierarchy is almost the same, but like Lone Druid of mine was at peak, no its missing one bar. Or someone overperformed my Lone Druid by miles xD
            There are a lot players complaining about this,not that their perfomance decreased,but that it was randomly shuffled.

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            • #7
              Possible, I don't have enough bars with lot of games played to really tell. Mines changed too, but not that badly - Zeus almost didn't change, Ursa went quite down, but that is still believable. Just don't relate it with the Win/Loss ratio as that is false approach. Otherwise,
              Storm[HUN] ~~~ Sic itur ad astra, per aspera. | [Dotabuff]

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              • #8
                Supposing that ... we do take as a standard that it compares YOUR preformance to OTHER PEOPLES preformance ... and it needs a couple of games to be accurate ... my preformance charts seem to have changed drastically ... for the better, being more accurate ... no clue what's going on.

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                • #9
                  somehow the performance stats are weird now
                  I had 2 heroes on 5, one with >150 games, the other one >40 games.
                  now they got both rated 3.1-3.2 and my highest rated is a hero I played 12 times and not even recently
                  I dont get it^^
                  whether they really changed the algorithm dramatically or its a bug like the bug that you have 0 losses.

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                  • #10
                    Since earlier everybody agreed that the performance bars are not accurate, we shouldn't be surprised that they are changed. And we can only say they are broken now, if we assume they were right before... but hey, we know they were NOT right before.

                    So we can't know if they just got right after being wrong earlier, or they are still wrong.

                    So I think it makes no sense to tell that they are weird, the devs sure know about it since they are the ones who changed them, LOL.
                    Storm[HUN] ~~~ Sic itur ad astra, per aspera. | [Dotabuff]

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                    • #11
                      I don't know what they did, but they did it wrong. Now I have some random heroes on top I know I'm not good with and I only rarely play.

                      Sadly I cannot "prove" to you that I'm bad with them, so the stats (which are not everything that matters) will have to do.

                      My top 6 "performance" wise:
                      Name |K/D|K+A/D|GPM|W-L
                      Axe |1.00|2.25|304.3|1-5
                      Invoker |1.18|2.97|353.3|2-4
                      Lina |0.98|1.75|288.8|5-8
                      Clinkz |0.78|1.53|332.8|2-3
                      Shadow Shaman|0.93|2.39|376.9|4-4 <= This guy is legit, my games with him usually go well.
                      Doom Bringer |0.73|1.53 |359.4|2-5

                      Note: In total I have more than 600 games and my ratio is about 1:1.

                      And that is understandable, rating performance based on non-trivial factors (like w/l-ratio) is really hard. That's why I suggest a complete removal of the system or completely different approach.

                      Also: W/L-ratio should give good insight on how good you are with a hero (after a significant number of games, so the randomness from your allies/enemies diminishes). Also it's much easier for the player and his friends to rate the performance with a specific hero than for an AI.
                      Last edited by Milli; 05-26-2012, 05:48 PM.

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                      • #12
                        I noticed that my performance bars were completely shuffled as well after the latest patch. Not really an issue, but still very strange.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Martin Andrei View Post
                          There are a lot players complaining about this,not that their perfomance decreased,but that it was randomly shuffled.
                          I double this post. Half of my best heroes just went down while some really random heroes that I haven't played for ages went up.

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