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Expand the report system by allowing the option to tag comments (screenshots inside)

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  • Originally posted by Cocofang View Post
    -It might take too long to do it in the middle of the game.
    -Can't give feedback on voice abuse.
    -I bet certain people would see one unwarrented quote in their report and go ahead believing they got muted unfairlly.. That would still be annoying if it comes to the forum situation.
    -Upside. The more it takes the less abuse-encouraging it is. Unless you're one of those people that don't believe in the fact that it is and will be abused.
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    -The forum situation would get waaay worse if you're concerned about that. I for one would provide daily/weekly examples of how people have admitted to report me/others unjustly.

    @ rest of post. So. Much. Useless. Ideas. Also poisoning the well in last paragraph. GG

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    • Originally posted by Propkid View Post
      -The forum situation would get waaay worse if you're concerned about that. I for one would provide daily/weekly examples of how people have admitted to report me/others unjustly.
      Yeah I agree with you on your very own problem:

      "Burn in hell faggots"
      "gg EZ game nubs"
      "courier pls"
      "fucking naps"

      I fear that people wouldn't realize that many people (everybody) would get noise like "courier pls" within their achieved reports. But that doens't mean that you would be muted unjustly. Being muted just means that you've gone far behind random report noise. But I agree, that alot of people (like you) wouldn't be smart enough to realize this and would use one or two contextless paragraphs of their punishment details, to come here and complain...
      Last edited by Cocofang; 06-23-2013, 03:46 AM.

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      • First off, the mute system needs to be scrapped. all these people that say its working as its meant to are ignorant. Not being able to talk means you can't discuss champs or attack strategies. (2 pings is not enough for a fight.) The only way you could make this system to work, is make there an option to unmute people in your game. I don't care that some guy abused the bloke 10 games ago, that fact that I can't here is input in a TEAM GAME messes up not just his fun but the other 4 people on the team. for example, "WR are you building drums?" now the only way he can answer this is will stupid stuff. ie, WR ping twice for yes once for no. Now he is even limited on this, now he can only about once every 30 secs, and now if he needs to ping for a reason he can't. All this system does is makes it harder for the other 4 people on the team. You trust people with bans but not pings/drawing on the map? that's just stupid.

        I don't care if some guy calls me a cunt, I still want to hear him talk to me when i need it.

        Regarding the picture in the OP, even with this idea it won't work. The chats need to be done by a person from that servers area, the reason I say this is as an Australian, all of those reasons in the picture are not a reason to report someone, 8yo's talk worse than that. a guy saying "WR buy a fucking forcestaff" is not scary, it is not a reason to report. If they don't want to hear it they can simply ignore me, and this doesn't fuck up any body else games. Telling someone to uninstall isn't a reason to report either.

        If getting called shit or retarded or told to uninstall is a reason for you to report someone you need to toughen up.

        Also it seems that if you got spammed reported before the whole X reports a week you are basically fucked with this system. I know people that are getting week mutes for nothing.
        I got new players in my games all the time and they ask What are good items for X, I can't help them, all i can do is ping twice and say well played! twice.

        There are so many reasons that this system is utter trash. Stick a MA+15 sticker on the label and make a massive pop-up in game saying, If you feel the need to cry ignore people here, Or hell even make a new queue. "The No comm report Queue" or when I pick english have 2 options. English (teens) and English (Blokes) or something like that.

        When I first came to Dota I was utter shit, and people told me, i couldn't of cared less I knew i was, but when someone was legit abusive all i did was ignored them, and bam it was all fixed. I didn't fuck up anyone else games, and I solved the problem. I was no longer being abused, the game went on, the game ended it that's all that happened.

        To show another fault of this system, you could report people for comms. abuse when they were muted! combine this with infinite reports and now you have people that get chat banned (but the automated system) for nothing, and as a result of the past fuck ups by the devs with the system they are getting week bans or nothing.
        No grown man feels the need to report someone for being called shit.
        A guy reports another for whatever reason, now the reported guy reported 2 a week, and so on.
        Now granted that Muted can last up to a week, we are going to be a massive community of mutes!
        Even If you aren't affected, you will be eventually.

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        • It's a very nice idea, and it should be easy enough to implement.
          Something similar to voice chat abuse would be nice as well, but I think it would be a lot more complicated to do.

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          • Originally posted by Cocofang View Post
            Yeah I agree with you on your very own problem:

            "Burn in hell faggots"
            "gg EZ game nubs"
            "courier pls"
            "fucking naps"

            I fear that people wouldn't realize that many people (everybody) would get noise like "courier pls" within their achieved reports. But that doens't mean that you would be muted unjustly. Being muted just means that you've gone far behind random report noise. But I agree, that alot of people (like you) wouldn't be smart enough to realize this and would use one or two contextless paragraphs of their punishment details, to come here and complain...
            Confirmed for troll, conscious or not. Also confirmed for not checking 'poisoning the well'.
            Also confirmed for straw-man.

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            • +1

              I would also make the tagging comments the requirement for reporting (not in the case of voice chat though) i.e. making the tagging not optional, because I think that abusers of this system would not tag anything if tagging is not required.
              Or, we can also make the report with tagged comments to be considered more credible.

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              • This is a good suggestion.

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                • I support the idea.

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                  • Too logical and convenient. This doesn't make the offender paranoid at all by showing them only the bare minimum of what they must stop doing. [/sarcasm]

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                    • volvo pls.

                      well, this would only get me banned more, but hey im already permachat banned so w/e
                      ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your hype ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

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                      • Originally posted by || Nerf || View Post
                        If getting called shit or retarded or told to uninstall is a reason for you to report someone you need to toughen up.
                        "If being the target of abusive communication from another is a reason for you to report that person for abusive communication you need to toughen up."

                        Summarized that for you. Kinda falls apart now doesn't it?

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                        • it's a good idea. great!
                          but there are aspects Volvo needs to add... how the heck am I supposed to tell people I want to mid if I'm muted or I want to ulti or get that item...
                          just now I just left a game after a fag viper flamed me cause he called mid and I didn't. I was muted so no way to say it. I left the game since the game didn't even start

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                          • great idea
                            support it

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                            • wont work nobody will read that .... like nobody take a look in this forum i guess

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                              • ok guys, tell me pls how valve employees should check every single report that u will send?? Do you fckn realize it's impossible? They need thousands people. They need people who speak russian, mongolian, chinese, arabic, zimbabwean and other languages

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