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  1. #31
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    -Public Matchmaking isn't a place to apply EPEEN values that have no real value whatsoever
    A better place to apply ranking systems would be guilds/clans and tournament mode, or make it so teams similar to WOW arena teams have a shared ranking and are put on a ladder, solo queue is too dynamic in who you play with to ever have an accurate rating, and will just promote negative behavior such as "NO COURIER UPPED GG ABANDON NOW REPORT SUPPORT." Public matchmaking should remain a place where players can try new things without some overshadowing ranking system that ultimently has no real actual value to tell how a player truly plays, for example I excel at ganking, but kind of suck at ricing and a ranking system won't tell players that me playing zues mid would probably be better then me playing AM.

  2. #32
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    - Its rank, everyone would want this.

    Dislikes
    - Higher chance to queue with noobs in my team.
    - Gives me a higher chance to lose because of a retard team.
    - Broken matchmaking, it said even or 50-50 right? Well it's not. I was in a game just recently with people who are in 100 wins. If it was matchmaked due to win/loss ratio, Valve needs to start thinking properly because its obvious that someone with 100 wins and 200 games doesnt share the same skill level as someone with say, 500 wins and 1000 matches.

    I have not once played a match in ranking that is seen as a 50-50 chance to win. It's either, completely dominate or be completely dominated in one-sidedly manner.

    I suggest the matchmake to be done with the player's number of matches in mind.

  3. #33
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    -Nothing.

    Dislikes
    -This update said that it would add ranked matchmaking?
    -And still I see no changes, can't a dota player get a little peace
    It's war on the cyber streets caused by a volvo beast
    Instead of war on LoL
    They allow noobs to bother me, even mo
    And I ain't never flamed a noob I ain't have to do
    But now I'm back, mute n low pro, giving it back to you
    Don't let 'em jack you up, back you up
    Crack you up and wimp-smack you up
    You gotta learn to hold your own
    They get jealous when their cosmetic-buyers get owned
    But tell the v-cops they "can't touch this"
    I don't trust them, when they try to rape I play like navi'den
    That's the sound of my anal lube
    You say it ain't cool, my mama didn't raise no noob
    And as long as I stay pro, I gotta keep em godlike streaks
    And I never get to lay back
    Cause I always got to worry 'bout valve's premade defeats
    Some crap stack that I reported up way back
    Coming back after all these hours
    "Mut-t-tat-tat-tat-tat!" That's the way it is

  4. #34
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    - eliminates players very low

    dislikes

    - system is unable to distinguish between players who are above a certain level of the game, who know how to farm, and to use the skills to do all the standard things.

    i special test :

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/419966667 - 1 unremarkable
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/420038135 - 2 unremarkable
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/420160460 - no brain invo, feed solo all time, no push, farm in jungl with 6 slots, ruin game special.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/420349404 - stupid guys, feed all, all stupid pick.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/420431208 - 3 unremarkable
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/420797273 - feed and leave...
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/420862652 - low skills in my team.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/420939841 - feed + leave.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/424578021 - feed jungl commander, easy lane no carry he jungl.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/424673846 - low skill in another team.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/424765409 - commander special crash game go in double hard lane and feed.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/424838213 - stupid pick in another team.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/424911540 - 4 unremarkable
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/425155667 - 5 unremarkable
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/426036644 - 6 unremarkable
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/426085885 - feed silencer
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/426121958 - 7 unremarkable
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/427008987 - stupid pick in another team.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/427056030 - feed + low skills in my team, hard carry in easy lane haved 50 min 350 gpm with bh in team.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/427109001 - low skills in my team, cm+veno bought midas no wards vs furion, bh with meka.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/427137442 - 8 unremarkable ( 4 people all the time in the ult magnus )
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/427549323 - feed + low skill, very low skill.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/427608756 - feed + low skill, very low skill.

    total :

    23 game

    8 whithout leavers, low skill and similar.

    10 game qualifying:

    3 whithout leavers, low skill and similar.

    2 game with leavers.

    decision:
    algorithm should include:
    1.)comparison of your level of play with respect to the members of your team.
    2.)comparison you perform the role and perform a similar role Professional player.
    for ap mod:
    1.)consider the choice of your character for the team.
    2.)when the game is not balanced considered choice in most detail, and penalize players make a bad choice.

    2 years, people who are responsible for the selection of players, can not solve this problem, they are based on data collected in the game kda, gpm, and other statistics that do not show the level of the player who has passed a certain threshold.

    So it is necessary to force these people to come up with more sophisticated algorithms for calculating, based on the fulfillment of a role player in the game.

    Take new people with new ideas to the team, it is desirable to people playing dota more than 6 years of professional people dota2 scene.



    - system is unable to assess the true test of the game and the level of reward / punishment for her glasses

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/427549323 - this gam i haved -pts.

    decision:

    Same as above
    Last edited by Kroman; 12-17-2013 at 04:47 AM.

  5. #35
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    -A reason to play for
    -A bit better matchmaking system(No leavers on my team)

    Dislikes

    -How dumb can that MMR be when a solo player plays with a 5 man or 4 man stacked?
    -I am 3911 Rating and playing with 3400-3500 players who feed. Not that wise.
    That's how we suppose to show our skill?

  6. #36
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    I have only one thing to say and it is this: I was just teamed in solo ranked matchmaking with 2 groups of 2, none of which spoke English Vs. a group of 5. this seems to me a complete and utter failure of steams matchmaking system which states that they will try not to match solo players Vs. groups and they will try to place you on a team with people who speak the same language. I have played over 800 games and I can honestly say that that was the single worst game of Dota that I have ever played, made worse by the fact that it was rated. I believe that steam should just change a few options to make this situation impossible because even with their quick chat I was't in a position to communicate with my disparate team Vs. a nearly perfectly coordinated group of five on the opposing team. I don't know whether to expect rectification by steam in response to this post but If anyone has any Ideas as how I may have game 428139653 struck from my matchmaking record I would appreciate them.

  7. #37
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    Have a rank is nice

    DISLKES:
    A. Still getting non-English speakers on my team - BUT HEY I GOT THIS NIFTY CHAT WHEEL RIGHT?!?!?!

    B. Balancing is still HORRIBLE. I'm 3700 for my rank, Whenever I'm on a winning streak the game rewards me with non-english speaking noobs to ensure I get a couple of losses. I.E. last night I was jungling as LD, we had a beast master random who went solo long lane, juggernaut who went mid, and an Ursa random who went safe lane. So the last guy thankfully picks a support (CM), but then he goes long lane with our beast master. We proceed to ask him to go bot against the Necro/BH, but he refuses and gives up 3 deaths all back to back. He then finally leaves the lane, and proceed to jungle on CM. At this point he's extremely out leveled, feeds their BH a bunch who already got a couple of kills against our solo lane ursa, and then it's GG by 20 minutes with mass feeds going on.


    Oh, he was South American too (not racist, just saying that my experience with south americans in Dota 2 is 9x's out of 10 a bad one - not speaking English is a major factor of course).



    C. When is Valve going to FINALLY get it that this game needs an option to let us QUEUE region only and enforce it by IP location? This IS NOT THE SAME AS A FORCED REGION LOCK, it is simply an option for region lock for those who want it. I honestly don't care if my queue times are 10 minutes so long as I get all English speakers who are at a similiar skill range.


    D. I would like to know why I get queued with players who are new to Dota. It's not the normality, I've had some very good balanced close games in ranked matchmaking, but then every several games I get queued with a group of south americans who just feed and don't understand the basics of Dota - and it's while I'm on a winning streak so it's not like I'm losing so I am getting queued with worse players, I should be getting queued with higher skill players.


    E. I'm tired of me and my friend that I queue with being the best players 90% of the time on our team, I'm not being arrogant, it's just the reality. I honestly wish I was queued with people better than me, I miss those days when I was newer to Dota and I'd get queued with amazing players (relative to my skill level). Am I just stuck in a place where there aren't as many players near my skill range? Or is matchmaking just awful?
    Last edited by Zacharybinx34; 12-18-2013 at 05:10 AM.

  8. #38
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    Likes - Well it's ranked.

    Dislikes - It's darn shit, it does not view your stats and circumstances in the match ( Gold, Xp advantage, how many kills/deaths your team has)
    It's just a shitty - Win you get points, Loose - you loose points rank system. No effort was put in this.

  9. #39
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    Likes.

    1. Its happen.

    DisLikes.

    1. Dont Work totaly.
    2. Havnt ONLY Solo Pull seach.
    3. Havnt ROLE Seach game. like ( Carry/Support/Initiator/Offline etc..)

    I play my last game on CM mode, Captain pick for me Mirana on Offline, il do my best, kill offline and dominating, afterall my team goes build totaly sh*t and feed.
    My stats : 20/9/16 on OFFLINE. And RMM decrese my points at 30-35.
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/428688847
    Exit from dota2.
    Delete local content.
    Close steam.
    Goes forum to say bye bye.
    Realsed usless RMM totaly wrong.
    Last edited by Diemond; 12-17-2013 at 06:19 PM.

  10. #40
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    -none

    DISLIKES
    -People abandon in early game <6-7 min (sometimes they didnt pick a hero), and what the system says? "Stats will be recorded" WTFF, WHY??? = game lost = MMR down. I really think this system is retarded as fuck. Example: ID 428704152

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