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Thread: [Fixed] Berserker's Call cancelling Duel prematurely

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    [Fixed] Berserker's Call cancelling Duel prematurely

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    I believe the OP is reporting that the duel started by Legion Commander against Bristleback ended prematurely. I've found the cause. [Edit: the original topic title was less informative. ]

    Summary / Result

    When a hero is under the effect of Axe's Berserker's Call (his taunt), when that effect ends, any duel the hero was involved in (due to Legion Commander's ultimate) also ends.

    Reproduction

    There are a number of ways to reproduce this. It works whether Axe is allied to Legion Commander and is using taunt on the opponent, or Axe is an enemy of LC and is using taunt on her (while she duels someone else).

    To reproduce, it's easiest if LC has a level 3 ultimate and Axe has just 1 level in Berserker's Call. The point is that his taunt must end during the duel.

    Expected Result

    Well, I don't know the Dota 1 interaction. Perhaps in Dota 2, when Axe's taunt ends, the game thinks "I should give the target control of his character again", which interferes with the duel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizz View Post
    Well, I don't know the Dota 1 interaction.
    In DotA1, they both work at the same time. The affected units gets an order to attack LC and an order to attack Axe. This means it just doesnt attack anyone at all, since the one order cancels the other. But none of them makes the other spell end prematurely. If call ends before duel, the affected target will attack LC again for the remaining duration and vice versa.

    Imo the best solution would be to take it over like how it is in DotA1, make both spells' debuff stay for their duration, but prioritize Duel (since it's an ultimate), so the target attacks LC. If Duel ends before call, the target will attack Axe for the remaining duration and vice versa.
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    No, that would be unfair for Axe if he is going to save his teammate by aggroing LC. I believe the debuff last applied should take priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu3ny View Post
    In DotA1, they both work at the same time. The affected units gets an order to attack LC and an order to attack Axe. This means it just doesnt attack anyone at all, since the one order cancels the other. But none of them makes the other spell end prematurely. If call ends before duel, the affected target will attack LC again for the remaining duration and vice versa.
    thats not correct. they both are seperate instances yes but the target affected by both spells does more then standing still and not attacking:

    http://gaming.stackexchange.com/a/145826/20751

    it does in fact switch between targets if possible, etc. the outcome is not always the same (depending on attackspeed, spell cast etc)

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    as far I know, duel is stronger than call of axe. Duel enemy is always prioritized. Thats from my wc3 expewrience back then
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    Confirmed: Game 538163611

    First occurrence at 14:29 (10:24 game time) against Rubick, the dual ends early. Second time at 21:13 (17:10) against Tiny.

    Here are the relevant combat logs to show Dual is ending early:
    [14:24.84] Rubick receives Duel debuff from Legion Commander.
    [14:24.84] Legion Commander receives Duel debuff from Legion Commander.
    [14:24.91] Vhoul Assassin hits Legion Commander with Envenomed Weapon for 1 damage (922->921).
    [14:24.97] Sniper hits Axe for 16 damage (519->503).
    [14:25.11] Vhoul Assassin hits Rubick with Envenomed Weapon for 1 damage (273->272).
    [14:25.31] Legion Commander hits Rubick for 63 damage (272->209).
    [14:25.67] Axe loses Berserker's Call Armor buff.
    [14:25.67] Rubick loses Berserker's Call debuff.
    [14:25.71] Rubick loses Duel debuff.
    [14:25.71] Legion Commander loses Duel debuff.
    [14:25.91] Vhoul Assassin hits Legion Commander with Envenomed Weapon for 1 damage (922->921).
    [14:25.94] Sniper hits Axe for 46 damage (506->460).
    [14:25.94] Axe hits Rubick for 56 damage (208->152).
    [14:26.11] Vhoul Assassin hits Rubick with Envenomed Weapon for 1 damage (151->150).
    [14:26.41] Legion Commander receives Culling Blade buff from Axe.
    [14:26.41] Axe receives Culling Blade buff from Axe.
    [14:26.41] Axe hits Rubick with Culling Blade for 151 damage.
    [14:26.41] Rubick is killed by Axe!

    [21:08.47]Tiny receives Duel debufffrom Legion Commander.
    [21:08.47] Legion Commander receives Duel debuff from Legion Commander.
    [21:08.57] Queen of Pain hits Tiny for 86 damage (752->666).
    [21:08.74] Legion Commander hits Tiny for 94 damage (665->571).
    [21:08.77] Crystal Maiden hits Tiny with Crystal Nova for 187 damage (571->384).
    [21:08.77] Tiny receives Crystal Nova debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [21:08.87] Crystal Maiden hits Tiny with Frostbite for 52 damage (383->331).
    [21:08.87] Tiny loses Frostbite debuff.
    [21:09.14] Anti-Mage hits Mud Golem for 116 damage (205->89).
    [21:09.14] Tiny hits Legion Commander for 54 damage (1080->1026).
    [21:09.14] Legion Commander hits Tiny with Blade Mail for 54 damage (331->277).
    [21:09.24] Axe loses Berserker's Call Armor buff.
    [21:09.24] Tiny loses Berserker's Call debuff.
    [21:09.27] Tiny loses Duel debuff.
    [21:09.31] Legion Commander loses Duel debuff.
    [21:09.34] Sniper hits Tower for 22 damage (1075->1053).
    [21:09.44] Legion Commander hits Tiny for 94 damage (276->182).
    [21:09.67] Crystal Maiden receives Culling Blade buff from Axe.
    [21:09.67] Queen of Pain receives Culling Blade buff from Axe.
    [21:09.67] Legion Commander receives Culling Blade buff from Axe.
    [21:09.67] Axe receives Culling Blade buff from Axe.
    [21:09.67] Axe hits Tiny with Culling Blade for 183 damage.
    [21:09.67] Tiny is killed by Axe!

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    Still not fixed, match id 564100749 at 23:27

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    still not fixed: 596871941 @ 22:40

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