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    [Irrelevant since 6.82] What Duel diables and what Duel not disables ...



    Hey guys, just saw this video from Dota2PortalTv, and it basically says Duel does not disable some things it should disable. For ex: Drow's Frost Arrows.

    I have the same question as Dota2Portal: Are those intended?

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    2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
    2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
    Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


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    Attack modifiers were fixed in yesterday update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igo95862 View Post
    Attack modifiers were fixed in yesterday update.
    Ok'y, that's out!

    But there is more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix. View Post
    2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
    2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
    Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


    Credits to Phoenix.

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    If it's intended to work like wc3 duel (ladder doom), feast and bristleback shouldn't be disabled.

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    INCONSISTENCIES IN 1 LIST

    NEEDS TO BE ADDED:

    Frostmourne/Curse of Avernus IS disabled in wc3, but NOT in dota2

    Barrage (flak cannon/ splitshot - damage reduction still is applied) IS disabled in wc3, but NOT in dota2

    Poison attacks - including Elder dragons corrosive breath , SKs caustic finale, Venomancers poison attack, Meepos geostrike, and a gnoll eating doom bringer, ARE disabled in wc3, but NOT in dota2

    Geminate Attack IS disabled in wc3, but NOT in dota2

    Bladefury IS MOSTLY disabled in wc3, but is NOT in dota2 - the damage/immunity* was disabled in wc3. Nothing is disabled in dota2, but all of it should. *triggered magic immunity is not disabled because icefrog is lazy

    Incapacitating bite IS disabled in wc3, but NOT in dota2. NOTE: the buff, if placed before duel, should work, but should not reapply/give the buff while dueled.

    Voodoo restoration IS disabled in wc3, but NOT it dota2

    Damage block on items (Vangaurd, pms, stout) ARE disabled in wc3, but are NOT in dota2

    Chain lightning on Mjolinner/maelstrom ARE disabled in wc3, but are NOT in dota2

    NEEDS TO BE REMOVED:

    Insatiable hunger(lifesteal) is NOT disabled in wc3, but IS in dota2

    Vampiric aura (I did not test the new aura in 6.79. vampiric potion isnt disabled though) should NOT be disabled in wc3, but IS in dota2




    NOTE: All of these (and spirit bears demolish and entangle / warlock's golem's flaming fists - because they cant be dueled) apply to DOOM as well as Duel.

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    http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Silence

    "Hero Abilities Disabled by Mute:

    Spirit Breaker
    Greater Bash Greater Bash

    Abaddon
    Borrowed Time won't activate itself if you suffer damage while you have less than 400 HP"

    ^ Just had game... and that isn't the case.
    Valve please fix Duel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogdan_X View Post
    http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Silence

    "Hero Abilities Disabled by Mute:

    Spirit Breaker
    Greater Bash Greater Bash

    Borrowed Time
    Borrowed Time won't activate itself if you suffer damage while you have less than 400 HP"

    ^ Just had game... and that isn't the case.
    It is Dota 2 wiki. They have a lot of wrong information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igo95862 View Post
    It is Dota 2 wiki. They have a lot of wrong information.
    Do you have access to WC3 ? or anyone who has... can you make a test there and share the results please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogdan_X View Post
    Do you have access to WC3 ? or anyone who has... can you make a test there and share the results please?
    You can ask me about what duel disables, what duel should disable but not disabling (bug), and what duel shouldn't disable.

    Borrowed Time and Greater bash are disabled by Doom but not by Duel. This is intended, Doom's mute is stronger than Duel's mute.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix. View Post
    2013: 10 heroes, 3 reworks, 4 events, hats, 1 arcana and TI
    2014: 4 heroes, 2 events, 2 arcanas, hats, 1 rework and TI.
    Lazyness. Not to mention the lack of bugfixes, and the amount of new ones with each new content added


    Credits to Phoenix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion Commander View Post
    You can ask me about what duel disables, what duel should disable but not disabling (bug), and what duel shouldn't disable.

    Borrowed Time and Greater bash are disabled by Doom but not by Duel. This is intended, Doom's mute is stronger than Duel's mute.
    So there 2 Mute versions in this game ?

    One version Doom Mute and second for Duel Mute and there different type of Mute ?

    Hmh I always consider Mute to be with just 1 version from WC3. Are you sure this isn't just Valve being valve...

    Also you tested Aba ulti in WC3 with Duel how does it react ?
    Last edited by Bogdan_X; 12-23-2013 at 05:58 PM.

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