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    [Confirmed] Winter's Curse and Berserker's Call

    Yo,

    stumbled into another supposed bug regarding Winter's Curse.
    In a Match I've played today as Winter Wyvern, i had an allied Axe, who blinked upon enemy Juggernaut and Ursa, casts Berserker's Call, both Juggernaut and Ursa start attacking Axe.
    Before the Berserker's Call effect expired, I casted Winter's Curse on Juggernaut, Ursa who should now slap Juggernaut attacks Axe for one more Time, Berserker's Call then expired and Ursa (Who was still under the effect of Winter's Curse) was just running away instead of attacking Juggernaut.

    Date
    April 11th 2015, 3:04:20
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    Match ID
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    Things happened at 34:43 ingame time, when the Dire pushed the Radiant's middle Barracks.

    34:44 ; Axe blinks on Juggernaut and Ursa, casts Berserker's Call
    34:46 ; Winter's Curse was cast on Juggernaut
    34:46 ; Ursa slaps Axe for one more time (confirmed by the fourth Fury Swipe on Axe)
    34:47 ; Berserker's Call expires.
    34:47 ; Ursa runs away while still under the effect of Winter's Curse

    I've read somewhere, that Winter's Curse is superior to Berserker's Call, meaning that enemies affected by both spells will rather attack the unit afflicted by Winter's Curse instead of Axe...but since i've seen many enemies attacking Axe instead of the unit who was Winter's Curse cast upon, it might aswell be false information.

    Actually this is about Ursa happily running away after Berserker's Call expires, even though both Juggernaut and Ursa are still affected by Winter's Curse, instead of being able to run away he should start attacking Juggernaut.

    Going to try to reproduce this soon.

    Thanks for reading.


    Repro:
    1. Cast Berserker's Call on some enemies
    2. Cast Winter's Curse so that the enemies affected by Berserker's Call are within its radius
    3. Give the affected units any order before Berserker's Call ends
    Notes: An order MUST be given to the units and it MUST be given before Berserker's Call ends.

    Result: As soon as Berserker's Call ends, the units will execute the order they received during the call.

    Expected result: Units should not be able to execute the giving order and be forced to attack the Winter's Curse target.

    Last edited by bu3ny; 04-13-2015 at 03:50 AM. Reason: added repro and vid
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    [38:04.42] Axe casts ability Berserker's Call.
    [38:04.42] Juggernaut receives Berserker's Call debuff from Axe.
    [38:04.42] Ursa receives Berserker's Call debuff from Axe.

    [38:04.42] Axe receives Berserker's Call Armor buff from Axe.
    [38:04.46] Melee Creep hits Kunkka for 14 damage (1488->1474).
    [38:04.49] Axe has ability Counter Helix triggered by Ursa.
    [38:04.49] Axe hits Ursa with Counter Helix for 124 damage (1183->1059).
    [38:04.49] Axe hits Juggernaut with Counter Helix for 129 damage (1699->1570).
    [38:04.52] Ranged Creep hits Ursa for 9 damage (1059->1050).
    [38:04.52] Winter Wyvern hits Ursa with Arctic Burn for 63 damage (1050->987).
    [38:04.56] Axe receives Fury Swipes debuff from Ursa.
    [38:04.56] Ursa's Vladmir's Offering heals Ursa for 7 health (987->994).
    [38:04.56] Ursa hits Axe for 45 damage (1678->1633).
    [38:04.56] Winter Wyvern loses Swiftness Aura buff.
    [38:04.56] Tusk loses Swiftness Aura buff.
    [38:04.56] Axe loses Swiftness Aura buff.
    [38:04.56] Ranged Creep loses Swiftness Aura buff.
    [38:04.56] Melee Creep loses Swiftness Aura buff.
    [38:04.62] Juggernaut receives Arctic Burn Slow debuff from Winter Wyvern.
    [38:04.62] Winter Wyvern hits Juggernaut for 71 damage (1569->1498).
    [38:04.66] Ranged Creep hits Kunkka for 10 damage (1474->1464).
    [38:04.72] Melee Creep hits Kunkka for 12 damage (1464->1452).
    [38:04.76] Juggernaut's Mask of Madness heals Juggernaut for 7 health (1499->1506).
    [38:04.76] Ursa's Vladmir's Offering heals Juggernaut for 6 health (1506->1512).
    [38:04.76] Juggernaut hits Axe for 35 damage (1634->1599).
    [38:04.76] Melee Creep hits Kunkka for 14 damage (1451->1437).
    [38:04.89] Ursa loses Overpower buff.
    [38:04.89] Ursa's Vladmir's Offering heals Ursa for 9 health (995->1004).
    [38:04.89] Ursa hits Axe for 51 damage (1599->1548).
    [38:05.02] Axe uses Blade Mail.
    [38:05.02] Axe receives Blade Mail Reflection buff from Axe.
    [38:05.29] Juggernaut's Mask of Madness heals Juggernaut for 14 health (1513->1527).
    [38:05.29] Ursa's Vladmir's Offering heals Juggernaut for 11 health (1527->1538).
    [38:05.29] Juggernaut hits Axe for 70 damage (1551->1481).
    [38:05.29] Axe hits Juggernaut with Blade Mail for 91 damage (1538->1447).
    [38:05.32] Axe hits Juggernaut for 101 damage (1446->1345).
    [38:05.49] Ranged Creep hits Ursa for 10 damage (1006->996).
    [38:05.53] Winter Wyvern hits Ursa with Arctic Burn for 59 damage (995->936).
    [38:05.63] Axe has ability Counter Helix triggered by Juggernaut.
    [38:05.63] Axe hits Ursa with Counter Helix for 137 damage (935->798).
    [38:05.63] Axe hits Juggernaut with Counter Helix for 129 damage (1346->1217).
    [38:05.63] Winter Wyvern hits Juggernaut with Arctic Burn for 94 damage (1216->1122).
    [38:05.69] Siege Creep hits Kunkka for 19 damage (1438->1419).
    [38:05.69] Kunkka hits Melee Creep for 225 damage (282->57).
    [38:05.69] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 150 damage (282->132).
    [38:05.69] Melee Creep receives Torrent debuff from Kunkka.
    [38:05.69] Melee Creep receives Torrent Slow debuff from Kunkka.
    [38:05.69] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 150 damage.
    [38:05.69] Melee Creep is killed by Kunkka!
    [38:05.69] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 150 damage.
    [38:05.69] Melee Creep is killed by Kunkka!
    [38:05.69] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 150 damage (281->131).
    [38:05.69] Melee Creep receives Torrent debuff from Kunkka.
    [38:05.69] Melee Creep receives Torrent Slow debuff from Kunkka.
    [38:05.69] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 150 damage (282->132).
    [38:05.69] Melee Creep receives Torrent debuff from Kunkka.
    [38:05.69] Melee Creep receives Torrent Slow debuff from Kunkka.
    [38:05.73] Winter Wyvern hits Juggernaut for 74 damage (1123->1049).
    [38:05.76] Ranged Creep hits Kunkka for 11 damage (1420->1409).
    [38:05.76] Juggernaut's Mask of Madness heals Juggernaut for 6 health (1049->1055).
    [38:05.76] Ursa's Vladmir's Offering heals Juggernaut for 6 health (1055->1061).
    [38:05.76] Juggernaut hits Axe for 34 damage (1483->1449).
    [38:05.76] Axe hits Juggernaut with Blade Mail for 45 damage (1060->1015).
    [38:05.86] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (131->116).
    [38:05.86] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (132->117).
    [38:05.86] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (132->117).
    [38:05.99] Ursa's Vladmir's Offering heals Ursa for 8 health (800->808).
    [38:05.99] Ursa hits Axe for 54 damage (1449->1395).
    [38:05.99] Axe hits Ursa with Blade Mail for 54 damage (808->754).
    [38:05.99] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (117->102).
    [38:05.99] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (117->102).
    [38:05.99] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (117->102).
    [38:06.09] Axe casts ability Battle Hunger on Ursa.
    [38:06.09] Ursa receives Battle Hunger debuff from Axe.
    [38:06.16] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (102->87).
    [38:06.16] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (102->87).
    [38:06.16] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (102->87).
    [38:06.26] Juggernaut's Mask of Madness heals Juggernaut for 6 health (1016->1022).
    [38:06.26] Ursa's Vladmir's Offering heals Juggernaut for 5 health (1022->1027).
    [38:06.26] Juggernaut hits Axe for 34 damage (1396->1362).
    [38:06.26] Axe hits Juggernaut with Blade Mail for 45 damage (1027->982).
    [38:06.29] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (87->72).
    [38:06.29] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (87->72).
    [38:06.29] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (87->72).
    [38:06.46] Axe hits Ursa for 110 damage (755->645).
    [38:06.46] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (72->57).
    [38:06.46] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (72->57).
    [38:06.46] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (72->57).
    [38:06.50] Ranged Creep hits Ursa for 10 damage (645->635).
    [38:06.53] Winter Wyvern hits Ursa with Arctic Burn for 38 damage (635->597).
    [38:06.60] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (57->42).
    [38:06.60] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (57->42).
    [38:06.60] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Torrent for 15 damage (57->42).
    [38:06.63] Winter Wyvern hits Juggernaut with Arctic Burn for 76 damage (982->906).
    [38:06.70] Kunkka hits Siege Creep with Tidebringer for 366 damage (395->29).
    [38:06.70] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Tidebringer for 732 damage.
    [38:06.70] Melee Creep is killed by Kunkka!
    [38:06.70] Melee Creep loses Torrent Slow debuff.
    [38:06.70] Melee Creep loses Torrent debuff.
    [38:06.70] Kunkka hits Melee Creep with Tidebringer for 732 damage.
    [38:06.70] Melee Creep is killed by Kunkka!
    [38:06.70] Melee Creep loses Torrent Slow debuff.
    [38:06.70] Melee Creep loses Torrent debuff.
    [38:06.70] Kunkka hits Ranged Creep with Tidebringer for 732 damage.
    [38:06.70] Ranged Creep is killed by Kunkka!
    [38:06.70] Kunkka hits Melee Creep for 653 damage.
    [38:06.70] Melee Creep is killed by Kunkka!
    [38:06.70] Melee Creep loses Torrent Slow debuff.
    [38:06.70] Melee Creep loses Torrent debuff.
    [38:06.76] Winter Wyvern casts ability Winter's Curse on Juggernaut.
    [38:06.76] Ursa receives Winter's Curse debuff from Winter Wyvern.
    [38:06.76] Juggernaut receives Winter's Curse Target debuff from Winter Wyvern.

    [38:06.83] Juggernaut loses Berserk buff.
    [38:06.86] Ranged Creep hits Kunkka for 10 damage (1411->1401).
    [38:06.86] Winter Wyvern hits Juggernaut for 56 damage (907->851).
    [38:07.10] Axe hits Ursa with Battle Hunger for 30 damage (600->570).
    [38:07.13] Ursa's Vladmir's Offering heals Ursa for 10 health (570->580).
    [38:07.13] Ursa hits Axe for 59 damage (1367->1308).
    [38:07.13] Axe hits Ursa with Blade Mail for 59 damage (579->520).
    [38:07.47] Ursa receives Lesser Maim debuff from Ursa. yeah ... right
    [38:07.47] Axe hits Ursa for 107 damage (520->413).
    [38:07.50] Ranged Creep hits Ursa for 10 damage (413->403).
    [38:07.53] Winter Wyvern hits Ursa with Arctic Burn for 24 damage (402->378).
    [38:07.63] Ursa loses Berserker's Call debuff.
    [38:07.63] Winter Wyvern hits Juggernaut with Arctic Burn for 51 damage (853->802).
    [38:07.63] Juggernaut loses Berserker's Call debuff.
    [38:07.63] Axe loses Berserker's Call Armor buff.
    [38:07.77] Winter Wyvern hits Building for 35 damage (500->465).
    [38:07.80] Bane casts ability Enfeeble on Juggernaut.
    [38:07.80] Juggernaut receives Enfeeble debuff from Bane.
    [38:08.10] Axe hits Ursa with Battle Hunger for 30 damage (381->351).
    [38:08.34] Siege Creep hits Kunkka for 24 damage (1405->1381).
    [38:08.40] Axe hits Ursa for 94 damage (352->258).
    [38:08.44] Ranged Barracks loses Desolator debuff.
    [38:08.50] Winter Wyvern casts ability Splinter Blast on Ursa.
    [38:08.50] Winter Wyvern loses Arctic Burn Flight buff.
    [38:08.54] Winter Wyvern hits Ursa with Arctic Burn for 15 damage (259->244).
    [38:08.54] Ursa loses Arctic Burn Slow debuff.
    [38:08.64] Winter Wyvern hits Juggernaut with Arctic Burn for 48 damage (804->756).
    [38:08.74] Kunkka uses Phase Boots.
    [38:08.74] Kunkka receives Phase Boots buff from Kunkka.
    [38:08.74] Melee Creep hits Bane for 13 damage (1137->1124).
    [38:08.97] Melee Creep hits Bane for 13 damage (1124->1111).
    [38:09.10] Axe hits Ursa with Battle Hunger for 30 damage (246->216).
    [38:09.14] Melee Creep hits Bane for 14 damage (1112->1098).
    [38:09.27] Melee Creep hits Bane for 13 damage (1098->1085).
    [38:09.31] Ogre Magi receives Vladmir's Aura buff from Ursa.
    [38:09.54] Axe loses Blade Mail Reflection buff.
    [38:09.64] Winter Wyvern hits Juggernaut with Arctic Burn for 45 damage (759->714).
    [38:09.64] Juggernaut loses Arctic Burn Slow debuff.
    [38:09.64] Axe hits Ursa for 109 damage (217->108).
    [38:09.74] Ogre Magi receives Ring of Aquila Aura buff from Juggernaut.
    [38:09.77] Ursa loses Winter's Curse debuff.
    [38:09.77] Ursa receives Winter's Curse debuff from Winter Wyvern.
    [38:09.77] Juggernaut loses Winter's Curse Target debuff.
    [38:09.81] Siege Creep hits Axe for 14 damage (1323->1309).
    [38:09.81] Ursa loses Winter's Curse debuff.
    [38:09.81] Kunkka hits Siege Creep for 126 damage.
    [38:09.81] Siege Creep is killed by Kunkka!
    [38:09.87] Bane hits Ursa for 57 damage (109->52).
    [38:10.01] Melee Creep hits Bane for 13 damage (1088->1075).
    [38:10.11] Axe hits Ursa with Battle Hunger for 30 damage (54->24).
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    But I had tested this before WW got released on the main client and it was working fine.. her ulti had a higher priority than call, but lower than duel and all 3 worked fine together. So it got broken later on.
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    Yo,

    thanks for the answers and the sample on YT.

    Reproduced it today, Lobby Match, spawn Winter Wyvern and Axe for the Radiant, two random heroes (Rhasta and Anti Mage for me) for the Dire Team.
    Max them out (LVL25, no Items recommended; if you don't max them out Rhasta probably dies during the process) and do the following:

    1. Cast Berserker's Call in range of Anti Mage and Rhasta.
    2. After ~2 seconds cast Winter's Curse on Rhasta.
    3. Select Anti Mage and give him a move command to anywhere else (while he is still affected by both Berserker's Call and Winter's Curse).
    4. When Berserker's Call expires, you should now see Anti Mage happily prancing away, while still affected by Winter's Curse.

    Normally Anti Mage should be attacking Rhasta after Berserker's Call expires since he is affected by Winter's Curse, instead of that he follows every command you gave him during the window where he was affected by Berserker's Call and Winter's Curse.

    I even made him Blink sometimes, but when the Winter's Curse debuff expires while he is in the animation of the Blink, he will just cancel it...could be explained by:
    Quote Originally Posted by li.lo View Post
    [...]
    Spoiler: 
    [COLOR=#ff0000]
    [38:09.77] Ursa loses Winter's Curse debuff.
    [38:09.77] Ursa receives Winter's Curse debuff from Winter Wyvern.
    [38:09.77] Juggernaut loses Winter's Curse Target debuff.
    [38:09.81] Siege Creep hits Axe for 14 damage (1323->1309).
    [38:09.81] Ursa loses Winter's Curse debuff.
    [...]

    IF you do not give Anti Mage any command at all, he will start attacking Rhasta accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by bu3ny View Post
    But I had tested this before WW got released on the main client and it was working fine.. her ulti had a higher priority than call, but lower than duel and all 3 worked fine together. So it got broken later on.
    In addition targets affected by both Berserker's Call and Winter's Curse will always priorize attacking Axe over attacking the unit Winter's Curse was cast on.
    Interactions between Duel to Berserker's Call and Duel to Winter's Curse went as you said after what i've tested out. (Duel overrides everything.)

    Thanks for reading.
    Last edited by 8Bit!Liquidized; 04-13-2015 at 06:07 PM. Reason: removed something
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    Yea, you have to order the affected unit to do something before berserker's call ends. It's just like that one bug when Axe turns invis during call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu3ny View Post
    But I had tested this before WW got released on the main client and it was working fine.. her ulti had a higher priority than call, but lower than duel and all 3 worked fine together. So it got broken later on.
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    ^ No, it probably was bugged from the beginning. It's not just "it has no effect", it only has no effect if the unit gets a move order before the call ends. I didn't try it that way (didnt think of that).
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    Yo,

    didn't know that it was considered a bug when Axe turns invisible during Berserker's Call, since there is no actual target enemies can give a attack order on, so acting normally but standing freezed in position made sense for me, thought about it as intended.

    Thanks for the confirmation and the edit, I will try to follow that format for future reports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8Bit!Liquidized View Post
    Yo,

    didn't know that it was considered a bug when Axe turns invisible during Berserker's Call, since there is no actual target enemies can give a attack order on, so acting normally but standing freezed in position made sense for me, thought about it as intended.

    Thanks for the confirmation and the edit, I will try to follow that format for future reports.
    When Axe turns invisible, affected units should walk up to the Axe's last known position. Currently, they will just either auto-attack the next valid target, if no enemy is nearby, you can give them 1 order, but that order cannot be canceled. After that 1 order, they can't do anything until the call wears off.
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    Berserker's Call + Duel bug

    If you use Berserker's Call on someone under effect of duel, once the duel finishes the enemy can walk away even if the Call still going on..

    Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR3i7_N6ObY

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