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Thread: [Fixed] kunkka refresher ulti

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    [Fixed] kunkka refresher ulti

    Bug#1:
    Summary:
    kunkka ulti refresher ulti does not work if you move between ultis

    Repro Steps:
    pick kunkka
    ulti something
    before ulti hits, move a little, refresher, and ulti again

    Result:
    first ship does nothing
    second ship stuns and does damage

    Expected Result:
    both ships stun and deal damage

    Bug#2:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostface View Post
    Apparently, a Ghost Ship + Refresher should apply the buff twice and not just "refresh the buff timer",
    and note that the move speed buff wont stack.

    Effectively, this gives you 100% damage reduction if both spells are active since triggered heals stack additively.

    http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1300696

    Pick Kunkka
    Get refresher
    Cast Ultimate on your self, be applied with Captain Cocos Rum
    Refresh
    Cast Ultimate on your self, be applied again with Captain Cocos Rum
    You now have 2 Coco's rum buff (+movespeed does not stack)
    You are now 100% immune to any damage when both buffs are up since triggered heals stack.
    Fix it and tell this to SingSing so that he can use refresher as a core item.

    Whats happening on Dota2
    Pick Kunkka
    Get refresher
    Cast Ultimate on your self, be applied with Captain Coco's Rum
    Refresh
    Cast Ultimate on your self, Captain Coco's Rum buff timer will be refreshed.
    You will not have 2 Coco's Rum, instead, you have just 1 that was refreshed when the second boat came.
    Last edited by blash365; 03-19-2013 at 02:50 AM. Reason: added bug#2

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    Just confirmed this. Just tested other heroes (Faceless Void, Jakiro, Dark Seer, Warlock, Shadow Shaman, Spectre), and both simultaneous ults work as expected. It appears refresher only bugs the ultimates of Kunkka and Ancient Apparition.

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    Sounds similar to the refresher burrow strikes/ravages that weren't doing damage.

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    incorrect

    first ship does damage and stun in position of the second ship

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustnothai View Post
    incorrect

    first ship does damage and stun in position of the second ship
    this shouldn't happen. You casted the first boat on a other location than he 2nd
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    hmm... multiple ghost ships will only damage the units hit by the last ship TWICE, even if there are more than 2 ships(from each kunkka)
    also, shouldnt 2 ghost ships make kunkka invulnerable temporally? currently it's only 50% damage reduction

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    Besides being a non-stackable buff, it would only reduce the damage to 25%

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    In DotA 1, it stacks additively, meaning 3 ships will actually make you heal by 50% (but you will lose 150% after buff wears off)

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    It's a pseudo-evasion so if you have it used on spectre she gets 72% damage reduction temporarily (0.22+0.5), if you add wisp in too it's 92%. I am pretty sure this is different in dota 2 though, and I have investigated it somewhere :/ And not even that long ago pretty sure I'm losing my mind.

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    Refresher and Kunkka's boat

    One of the guys in playdota.com asked about Captain Coco's Rum being applied twice
    by refresher and if it takes 0 damage from all sources.

    Apparently, a Ghost Ship + Refresher should apply the buff twice and not just "refresh the buff timer",
    and note that the move speed buff wont stack.

    Effectively, this gives you 100% damage reduction if both spells are active since triggered heals stack additively.

    http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1300696

    Im sure the guys at playdota are very knowlegeable of the mechanics of Dota1,
    ill test it myself on the Dota1 testmap, but for now, going by that thread, this would be a bug in Dota2

    TL : DR
    Pick Kunkka
    Get refresher
    Cast Ultimate on your self, be applied with Captain Cocos Rum
    Refresh
    Cast Ultimate on your self, be applied again with Captain Cocos Rum
    You now have 2 Coco's rum buff (+movespeed does not stack)
    You are now 100% immune to any damage when both buffs are up since triggered heals stack.
    Fix it and tell this to SingSing so that he can use refresher as a core item.

    Whats happening on Dota2
    Pick Kunkka
    Get refresher
    Cast Ultimate on your self, be applied with Captain Coco's Rum
    Refresh
    Cast Ultimate on your self, Captain Coco's Rum buff timer will be refreshed.
    You will not have 2 Coco's Rum, instead, you have just 1 that was refreshed when the second boat came.
    Last edited by Ghostface; 03-19-2013 at 12:26 AM.

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