Best Idea - Choose Role before find match

[Capitan_L]

Dota 2 become super game if they do this
players shoud choose their role befor find match
so every match have 1 sup - 1 carry - 1 mid - 1 roam - 1 offlane - 1 jungler - or every ♥♥♥♥ing role
for expamle , there is some check boxes
☐ Core ☐ support ☐ Roaming ☐ Mid ☐ Offlane ☐ Carry and . . .
u check them if u can play
and these factors apply to find match
better gaming expreince
Valve please do this
this will save Dota 2 from dying
guys if u accpet me share this discussion with ur friends and comment
coz valve just read discussions that have more than 100 comments
OR someone please translate my bad english to better one and Post it. thanks
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Originally posted by I MUTE EVERYONE:
This would only limit the game. I understand what you're trying to achieve, but I highly believe this change would only be met with recentment.

To list a few problem:

Scenario 1: Someone with the worst stats picks Carry.
Problem: You are unable to pick carry yourself and must thus rely on him

Scenario 2: Two people picks Carry. He picks Clinkz and Bounty // He picks PA after they picked CK // He picks PL and the enemy picks ES.
Problem: Your carry fails to make good combinations or counters, or it's necessary for you to pick an extra carry

Scenario 3: You are unable to pick LC because you already have a carry, but the enemy team just picked Huskar.
Problem: Some carry heroes have more team roles than just being pure damage. Some support heroes have more team roles than just being pure support.

Scenario 4: You select initiate. The lane combination however requires you to pick an extra support.
Problem: You are now forced to follow a system rather than making a rational choice based on your own knowledge and experience.
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my replay :

thanks
i just started the main Idea , and every new Idea have many problems that can improve
sc 1 : i think there should be some new report meta that at the end of game we can have a report role for every match
for example : every player have two button under hero icon in match detail
for carry : [Good carry ] [ bad carry ]
am played so bad in game and everybody in team click on [ bad carry ] after several reports his Carry score will decrese and he wont able to play carry for few days or just 24 hr or he only can play carry in Nomral match
same as all roles
roles should have score
sc 2 : i think that part of my idea was bad , wich that role sup cant pick carry
becuase we know all heros can play all roles
so this role score is key of this soultion
for example if a sup role wants to pick carry he need premison from mates
he request picking sven , then 2 player should accept then he can pick it .
guys this idea will change basicly the pick phase
i think this Role score will fix many issues
and Role score will be show in pick phase
Carry : 5.6/10 Sup :7.8/10 Mid : 2.4/10 .. . .
and this score is based on people [ good {role}] [ bad {role}]
this idea is Raw , we should cook it togheter
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question : How will this save dota from dying? If anything it will just kill it. Queue times will be much longer, not to mention this will be highly exploitable.
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replay : more Queue Time but better quality . and i mean u can check 3 boxes
like this :
■ Core ☐ support ■ Roaming ■ Mid ☐ Offlane ☐ Carry
and its will be fine
in best situation game will find in 3 min
but if its took too long
game will find with old factors
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comment : Okay stop right here.

I think you are overthinking your idea right now. Of course every problem can be solved, but sometimes the best way to solve it is not to create it in the first place...
Because you are now creating an ever increasing complex system (which there was no actual demand for in the first place) that will create more question marks the further you go for each point you adress.
It's a downward spiral which will continously have more and more factors to consider, the player community, the game mechanics etc, until finally the eventual answer will be a No.

Thank you for your enthusiasm tho
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replay : men
this is very bad for Dota 2
in pick phase u dont know what is ur mates role
even if we dont force anything
there should be an option that show ur Role just a simple GUI with no effect on picking
but with Role Score may many problems fix
we are not creating problems , there is problems already
1. games with no support
2. mid fights
3. two jungler
4. Random pick in last or 4nd pick
5.all carry games
6.stupid frist picks like picking carry frist or midder , or pick meepo frist
7. Ez feed with courior and no one cant stop him
8. everyone can ez Ruin whole game
and . . .

and if people determine ur Role , it would be great
no more fights for mid
coz x player have 9/10 Role score of mid and Y player have 4/10 role score of mid
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[Capitan_L]

Haha , thank you valve .
frist time u heard my idea .