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Thread: [Confirmed] Does passive aghanim bonus require level in ultimate

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    [Confirmed] Does passive aghanim bonus require level in ultimate

    Summary: Tiny with 0 level in Grow will not gain the tree's passive bonus from Aghanim.

    Reproduce:
    -Pick Tiny
    -Get Aghanim
    -Find multiple creeps together and attack one.

    Result:
    Only the creep you attacked take damage, there was no cleave.

    Expected:
    He should have the attack range/cleave/demolish bonus.


    This also affect Enchantress.
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    aghanims upgrades the ultimate of some of the heroes. tiny cant equip a tree if his grow ultimate is not level 1 or more because what will the aghanims upgrade? if its 0 then none right?

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    You need a point in ultimate for aghanims to work. Aghanim's effectively exchanges your 3 levels of the ultimate with other 3 levels (basically another spell). If you have the ultimate lvl0, the aghanims ultimate will also be lvl0.

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    For Nightstalker, Aghanim's upgrades his Hunter in the Night skill, so I think it should work without a level in darkness. Not 100% sure tho.

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    tiny does grab a tree even with no level on grow, but there is no cleave and i assume those bonuses are also not applied. on the other hand, night stalker will always get the unobstructed vision at night. i guess when meepo comes out, he will also have one clone without leveling up ulti

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    Scepter upgrade should work even if the ultimate is not skilled.

    Tiny's scepter works differently from other upgrades, it adds the demolish and cleave abilities to tiny himself without interaction with his Grow skill. He should be benefiting from scpter even without any points in Grow.

    About nightstalker, hunter in the night is technically not upgraded either. NS gets a dummy with flying vision when he has scepter, and he will gain the upgrade as long as he has skilled hunter in the night or crippling fear.

    Meepo is indeed also another scepter special case, he will gain an extra clone even if he has not skilled his ultimate.


    Moved to main and added to common bugs list.
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    Didn't realize this got moved, bumping and editing the OP to have repro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLABLAFU View Post
    For Nightstalker, Aghanim's upgrades his Hunter in the Night skill, so I think it should work without a level in darkness. Not 100% sure tho.
    It even works without Hunter in the Night. It works every night.
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    This happens with Enchantress as well (original thread). Entry in common bugs list should be updated since it only mentions tiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLRevan View Post
    Moved to main and added to common bugs list.
    did you add it to the sticky already? i couldnt find it.

    i would lean towards adding this and the enchantress issue to the intended fix list.
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