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Thread: [Fixed] Ice blast and self-damage are causing suicides. AA should get kill.

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    [Fixed] Ice blast and self-damage are causing suicides. AA should get kill.

    AA's ult's secondary ability, Shatter, still does not work properly.

    If you ult someone, and they shatter, it does not give the kill to AA. Instead, if it was a solo kill, it says the hero has died. If it was an assisted kill, the kill goes to the assisting player.

    I have not checked, but I'd imagine that if shatter is not working properly, AA is not getting experience from shatter kills that he is not within exp range for as well.

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    The kill is awarded to whoever triggered the shatter.
    If the DoT puts the hero under the X%, you get the kill
    If the hero damaged himself (eg: pudge rut, kunnka ult, husk ult, etc.) to trigger shatter, it's a deny.

    and so on and so forth. Can't say anything about the last part (not gaining XP)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ainion View Post
    If the hero damaged himself (eg: pudge rut, kunnka ult, husk ult, etc.) to trigger shatter, it's a deny.
    The Shatter doesn't trigger on self dmg (at least that's the result of my tests).
    Please, just call me buny.

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    • Kill will be granted to the source of the damage that triggers the shatter.

    from playdota.

    The global experience thing is working, but it is unlikely for AA to get the lasthit with Shatter during a fight.

    Kunkka and other self-damaging skills are known to cause suicides in Dota2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLABLAFU View Post
    • Kill will be granted to the source of the damage that triggers the shatter.

    from playdota.


    E: No, you can't deny yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by EebstertheGreat
    Ancient gets the kill for suicides due to Ice Blast now. I believe that was not always the case, but it has been for a while.

    So for instance, Pudge cannot suicide with Rot under the effect of Ice Blast.




    Kunkka's Rum's afterdamage cancels consumables and such, too. But it shouldn't. Also it shouldn't trigger the shatter, because it's suppose to be hp removal.
    Last edited by bu3ny; 02-19-2012 at 01:37 PM.
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    Don't know if should, but it's happening in my games.

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    ^Ancient Apparition should get the kill when he makes the last damage instance, or when the affected unit makes the last damage instance.
    If the damage source comes from other players, that player get the kill, or that ally denied him.
    If the Dire/Radiant make the last damage instance, the Dire/Radiant should get the kill and the gold gets split.
    If a neutral gets trigger it, neutrals get the kill.
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    Pudge suicides from Frostbite while using rot once reaching the hp %

    Summary:
    If pudge gets hit with AA ulti, then reaches low enough health for the frostbite to trigger while using rot, pudge suicides instead of dying from frostbite.
    This happened twice in one game, and pudge had way too much health for it to be a normal suicide.


    Repro Steps:
    -hit pudge with ice blast
    -pudge uses rot
    -get pudge's hp down the the needed % for frost bite to trigger



    Result:
    pudge suicides

    Expected Result:
    pudge should die from frost bite giving the kill to AA

    edit for further clarification: Im saying pudge was above 10% hp, then rotted to 10%, which caused an instant deny from rot. I am not saying pudge had near-zero hp and was able to deny himself.
    Last edited by SAK_ATAK; 05-04-2012 at 10:21 AM.

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    This bug needs to be address fast.

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    Frostbite is Crystal Maiden's disable. The killing blow of Ice Blast is named Shatter.

    This is a known bug.

    Quote Originally Posted by bu3ny View Post
    Denying yourself while under the effect of Ice Blast shouldn't be possible. If the killing blow comes from the affected unit, Ancient gets the kill. Only allies could deny you, but not yourself. Le proof.
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