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Thread: [Confirmed] Vendetta damage has wrong mechanic: cleave and lifesteal

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    [Confirmed] Vendetta damage has wrong mechanic: cleave and lifesteal

    Summary:
    Bonus damage from vendetta does not directly added to hero damage before attack. So it does not affect on cleave and lifesteal.

    Repro Steps:
    Cleave:
    1) pick a 16lvl Nyx
    2) get 3 battlefury (90% cleave)
    3) hit stack of mobs without vendetta
    4) hit stack of mobs with vendetta, secondary targets take same damage as in step 3

    Lifesteal:
    1) pick a 16lvl Nyx
    2) get 1 satanic (~170% lifesteal) and use it
    3) hit mob without vendetta
    4) hit mob with vendetta, same lifesteal amount as in step 3.

    Result:
    ...

    Expected Result:
    In classic dota damage from skills based on WindWalk is physical, can be cleaved(melee) and can increase lifesteal amount. Can't find proof link in playdota machanics pages, but http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275219

    UPD1: shadow blade works fine.
    Last edited by Alin Glow; 07-28-2012 at 08:04 AM. Reason: Shadow blade update

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    This opens up a potential balance issue of crits + Vendetta though, doesn't it?

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    in dota1, I'm like 95% sure (I will test unless som1 confirm) that you cann't crit on Vendetta hit, cause you perform a backstab

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    w/e cleave and lifesteal is a serious bug.

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    Battlefury NA cleaving the ulti damage was some legit stuff. I always did this in dota1 the few times I played this hero as it was the only way he could carry games (through insane outfarming between vendetta ganks with BF)

    Not sure about lifesteal though, I would only use ulti to initiate but atleast the cleave is not working as it should

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    Judging from the combat log, it seems to have been changed to a separate instance of damage. I'm guessing it used to be one instance but was changed when Meld was also split into 2 damage instances last Patch (to separate it from the basic attack).

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    added to sticky.

    did the recent change to "backstab hits" affect any other skills too?
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    Shadow blade works fine (as intended) (tested with Kunkka).

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    It's been 3 months now and it still hasn't been fixed, just tested.

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    Shadowblade can crit as well now, not sure if this is intended or not.

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