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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmo View Post
    Hey all, that wasn't quite the final, final version. Here it is, with the obligatory typo fixed, and the addition of Troll Warlord's name.

    "It's an easy thing to offend a troll. A prickly and contentious race, trolls thrive on argument and strife, missing no excuse to raise their voices in dispute. Males grow to maturity in subterranean chambers beneath their matriarch's domicile, feeding and amusing themselves while contributing nothing. Often they stay for years beyond the age of maturity, while the matriarch provides them with sustenance. When young trolls are finally pushed from their sub-chamber, they gather with others of their kind, forming roving gangs of malcontents who complain loudly about all manner of vexation.

    As much as trolls love to argue, imagine how rare it is for a troll to be driven from his own kind for being too difficult to get along with. Such was Jah'rakal's fate, a monger troll from deep in the Hoven. So deluded was he, so bitter and abrasive, that even other trolls found his company intolerable. After one particularly vitriolic outburst in which he claimed the lion's share of loot from their latest raid, his cohorts finally snapped. They turned on him, beat him with clubs, and drove him from the encampment. Enraged at his banishment, he returned the next day, armed with steel, and slew them all, one by one. He then swore a blood oath: he would ever after be a fighting force unto himself. Now he roams the world as the Toll Warlord, bitter and angry, the Imperial high commander of an army of one."
    Toll Warlord? Haha! Does he guard the bridge and force you to pay so you may pass?

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    This is amazing. Absolutely amazing. Along with his voice lines, even his skin being red (he's really mad), you simply nailed it.
    This is Techies tier awesome.

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    Hey Kosmo, so if Troll Warlord now has rivalry lines telling Shadow Shaman that Hill Trolls are weak is his lore gonna be changed? So instead of being half Hill Trowle he'll just be straight Hill Troll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banethulhu View Post
    Hey Kosmo, so if Troll Warlord now has rivalry lines telling Shadow Shaman that Hill Trolls are weak is his lore gonna be changed? So instead of being half Hill Trowle he'll just be straight Hill Troll?
    Banethulhu, yes indeed, sir. It was just changed before this update. Hill trowles are no more. Shadow Shaman is now recognized as being half hill troll. Troll Warlord is a monger troll, a closely related sub-clade.

    These aren't the only two sub-clades.
    Last edited by Kosmo; 01-23-2013 at 05:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmo View Post
    Banethulhu, yes indeed, sir. It was just changed before this update. Hill trowles are no more. Shadow Shaman is now recognized as being half hill troll. Troll Warlord is a monger troll, a closely related sub-clade.
    Thanks for the reply, that's cool.

    edit: ah yes I've noticed now that his hero pages recognizes him as a hill troll, I asked mainly because dota2wiki still hasn't updated the lore.

    edit2: Oh so are Huskar, Dazzle and Batrider by any chance part of other clades? Neutral creeps aswell?
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    Banethulu, yeah, we kind of slid that little "hill troll" change in there. We probably should have posted that on the lore thread to draw attention to it. Neutral creeps aren't part of the larger troll clade at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmo View Post
    Banethulu, yeah, we kind of slid that little "hill troll" change in there. We probably should have posted that on the lore thread to draw attention to it. Neutral creeps aren't part of the larger troll clade at all.
    Well since they are called "Forest" and "Dark" Trolls I figured those could be clades, are they gonna be renamed? (Because I personally think at least some neutrals should get named changes, most notibly Ogre Magi and Ursa Warrior, since they are the names of heroes aswell)

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    This lore is awful. Seems like Valve's totally disregarded Radiant having good intentions and Dire having evil, and this is pretty much Axe's lore with the Red Mist army being swapped for a gang or trolls and the tittle of Red Mist general being swapped for 'lions loot' whatever that is. There's way too much of this lone wolf bullshit going on in the lore, he's called Troll Warlord, he cant be a Warlord of nothing, that's just silly. Also sounds like it was written with a thesaurus, too many unnecessary long words which, combined with descriptions we don't understand like "a monger troll from deep in the Hoven" makes it hideous to read. Just to add, I get its meant to be taking the mick out of internet trolls but its still awful, it's alright to have a few jokey lines of voice acting 'lols im a troll xD' but having his whole lore based on it is a tad lame.

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    This lore is awful. Seems like Valve's totally disregarded Radiant having good intentions and Dire having evil, and this is pretty much Axe's lore with the Red Mist army being swapped for a gang or trolls and the tittle of Red Mist general being swapped for 'lions loot' whatever that is. There's way too much of this lone wolf bullshit going on in the lore, he's called Troll Warlord, he cant be a Warlord of nothing, that's just silly. Also sounds like it was written with a thesaurus, too many unnecessary long words which, combined with descriptions we don't understand like "a monger troll from deep in the Hoven" makes it hideous to read. Just to add, I get its meant to be taking the mick out of internet trolls but its still awful, it's alright to have a few jokey lines of voice acting 'lols im a troll xD' but having his whole lore based on it is a tad lame.
    At this point I'd rather they have fun writing their characters than paying attention of who's on radiant and who's on dire. And really that's what they did with warlord, they had fun with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBizz View Post
    [...] Seems like Valve's totally disregarded Radiant having good intentions and Dire having evil, [...]

    Radiant.


    Radiant.


    Dire.


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    Dire.


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    Dire.



    And that isn't even mentioning the fact that Valve has specifically stated that the Radiant doesn't represent good, and that Dire doesn't represent evil.
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