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    [Confirmed] Frostbite and Entangling Claws deal more damage than intended

    http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=70676

    Confirmed by others in the thread.

    In WC3 the damage dealt is 140/140/210/210. In Dota 2 the damage is 140/210/210/280.
    (It deals one instance of damage immediately on being cast, then another after a second has passed in wc3. In dota 2 it deals the secondary instances of damage immediately at the end of a second rather than after the second has passed - resulting in 4 ticks of damage at level 4 rather than 3, and 3 ticks at level 2 instead of 2).

    This effectively means that at level 4 frostbite is dealing 93 dps instead of 70.

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    Okay... This time, I am semi-confirming this issue.
    This is absolutely crazy. It doesn't make any sense:

    Reproduction Steps:
    1. Pick a Crystal Maiden
    2. Check the issue



    Code:
         PICKED CRYSTAL MAIDEN (faulty instances = 2/3/3/4)
    
    Level 1
    [01:17.29] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2316->2264).
    [01:17.29] Centaur Warrunner receives Frostbite debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [01:17.29] Centaur Warrunner receives Stunned debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [01:18.33] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2267->2215).
    
    Level 2
    [01:24.69] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2316->2264).
    [01:24.69] Centaur Warrunner receives Frostbite debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [01:24.69] Centaur Warrunner receives Stunned debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [01:25.73] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2267->2215).
    [01:26.73] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2219->2167).
    
    Level 3
    [01:29.06] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2175->2123).
    [01:29.06] Centaur Warrunner receives Frostbite debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [01:29.06] Centaur Warrunner receives Stunned debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [01:30.09] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2127->2075).
    [01:31.09] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2077->2025).
    
    Level 4
    [01:34.43] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2037->1985).
    [01:34.43] Centaur Warrunner receives Frostbite debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [01:34.43] Centaur Warrunner receives Stunned debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [01:35.46] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1988->1936).
    [01:36.46] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1940->1888).
    [01:37.46] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1890->1838).
    Obey the reproduction steps. If required, restart the game.
    Because when you -createhero cr(ystal_maiden), that Crystal Maiden happens to be issue-free somehow:

    Code:
         COMMAND-CREATED CRYSTAL MAIDEN (issue-free instances = 2/2/3/3)
    
    Level 1
    [02:53.20] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2117->2065).
    [02:53.20] Centaur Warrunner receives Frostbite debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [02:53.20] Centaur Warrunner receives Stunned debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [02:54.24] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2067->2015).
    
    Level 2
    [02:57.94] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (2028->1976).
    [02:57.94] Centaur Warrunner receives Frostbite debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [02:57.94] Centaur Warrunner receives Stunned debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [02:58.97] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1979->1927).
    
    Level 3
    [03:02.20] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1939->1887).
    [03:02.20] Centaur Warrunner receives Frostbite debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [03:02.20] Centaur Warrunner receives Stunned debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [03:03.24] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1889->1837).
    [03:04.24] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1841->1789).
    
    Level 4
    [03:06.81] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1797->1745).
    [03:06.81] Centaur Warrunner receives Frostbite debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [03:06.81] Centaur Warrunner receives Stunned debuff from Crystal Maiden.
    [03:07.84] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1749->1697).
    [03:08.84] Crystal Maiden  hits Centaur Warrunner  with Frostbite for 52 damage (1700->1648).

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    what the hell?
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    Good find, although CM really needs this buff lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoAppelsin View Post
    Okay... This time, I am semi-confirming this issue.
    This is absolutely crazy. It doesn't make any sense:

    [...] Because when you -createhero cr(ystal_maiden), that Crystal Maiden happens to be issue-free somehow:
    Wow that's crazy. I remember reading that thread and I had JUST tested stuff with Frostbite and I was so sure everything was correct, couldn't wrap my head around it.

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    [D]Frostbite and Entangling Claws deal a lot (extra 33.3%) more damage than intended.

    Entangling Claws deal 240 physical damage (60*4 ticks during 3 seconds ) instead of 180 (30*6 during 3 seconds).
    Frostbite deals 140/210/210/280 damage instead of 140/140/210/210 damage.


    It can vary if you create the hero in a test game, but it's quite reliable in Live games.

    This is a bug will all dots that deal damage per second and last for a whole amount of seconds, but it's most relevant with these two, since the damage per tick is huge and the duration short. There might be other relevant spells, on top of dismember, but I can't think of one.
    Last edited by shalafi; 08-25-2013 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shalafi View Post
    Entangling Claws deal 240 physical damage (60*4 ticks during 3 seconds ) instead of 180 (30*6 during 3 seconds).
    Frostbite deals 140/210/210/280 damage instead of 140/140/210/210 damage.


    It can vary if you create the hero in a test game, but it's quite reliable in Live games.

    This is a bug will all dots that deal damage per second and last for a whole amount of seconds, but it's most relevant with these two, since the damage per tick is huge and the duration short. There might be other relevant spells, on top of dismember, but I can't think of one.
    This has been reported before and the current state is horrible. http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=70804
    This is known but it's now worse: -createhero maidens are no longer bug-free and it seems to be fully random now, making a fix probably even harder.
    If you think I've closed or deleted a post unjustified, feel free to PM me and I'll explain it to you/discuss it with you further.

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    Long title is long.
    [D] for duplicate.
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    Maybe merge them as the linked thread is only about Frostbite, not including Entangling Claws.
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