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Thread: [Confirmed] Shadow Shaman's Mass Serpent Ward's duration is wrong

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    [Confirmed] Shadow Shaman's Mass Serpent Ward's duration is wrong

    wards last 45 seconds
    they should last for 40 seconds

    Playdota is incorrect, in-game skill description in DotA is also incorrect...
    The skill directly uses a base ability without any fancy triggered additions to it. It is simply the Serpent Ward ability with increased count and etc..

    Code:
    01  [A00H]
    02  code=AOwd
    03  checkDep=1
    04  levels=3
    05  reqLevel=6
    06  levelSkip=5
    07  targs1=_
    08  Dur1=40
    09  HeroDur1=40
    10  Cool1=110
    11  Cost1=200
    12  Rng1=550
    13  DataA1=8
    14  UnitID1=osp4
    15  BuffID1=BOwd
    16  targs2=_
    17  Dur2=40
    18  HeroDur2=40
    19  Cool2=110
    20  Cost2=350
    21  Rng2=550
    22  DataA2=8
    23  UnitID2=o008
    24  BuffID2=BOwd
    25  targs3=_
    26  Dur3=40
    27  HeroDur3=40
    28  Cool3=110
    29  Cost3=600
    30  Rng3=550
    31  DataA3=8
    32  UnitID3=o009
    33  BuffID3=BOwd
    34  targs4=_
    35  Dur4=40
    36  HeroDur4=40
    37  Cool4=6.5
    38  Cost4=30
    39  Rng4=500
    40  DataA4=1
    41  UnitID4=osp3
    42  BuffID4=BOwd
    43  Art=ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNSerpentWard.blp
    44  Buttonpos=3,2
    45  Order=ward
    46  Animnames=stand,channel
    47  Researchart=ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNSerpentWard.blp
    48  Researchbuttonpos=3,0
    49  Name="Mass Serpent Ward"
    50  Tip="Mass Serpent |cffffcc00W|rard - [|cffffcc00Level 1|r]","Mass Serpent |cffffcc00W|rard - [|cffffcc00Level 2|r]","Mass Serpent |cffffcc00W|rard - [|cffffcc00Level 3|r]"
    51  Ubertip="Summons 8 immobile serpentine wards to attack enemies.  Each ward deals 43 max damage and is magic immune. Lasts 45 seconds. |n|n|cff99ccffCooldown: |r 110  |n|n|c00fffc01Scepter Upgradeable: Increases ward damage.|r","Summons 8 immobile serpentine wards to attack enemies.  Each ward deals 58 max damage and is magic immune. Lasts 45 seconds. |n|n|cff99ccffCooldown: |r 110 |n|n|c00fffc01Scepter Upgradeable: Increases ward damage.|r","Summons 8 immobile serpentine wards to attack enemies.  Each ward deals 73 max damage and is magic immune. Lasts 45 seconds. |n|n|cff99ccffCooldown: |r 110 |n|n|c00fffc01Scepter Upgradeable: Increases ward damage.|r"
    52  Hotkey=W
    53  Researchtip="Learn Mass Serpent |cffffcc00W|rard - [|cffffcc00Level %d|r]"
    54  Researchubertip="Summons 8 immobile serpentine wards to attack enemies. The wards are immune to magic. |n|n|cffffcc00Level 1|r - Deals 43 max damage. |n|cffffcc00Level 2|r - Deals 58 max damage.|n|cffffcc00Level 3|r - Deals 73 max damage. |n|n|cff99ccffCooldown: |r 110 |n|n|c00fffc01Scepter Upgradeable: Increases ward damage.|r"
    55  Researchhotkey=W
    Line number 8-9, 17-18, 26-27 and 35-36.
    I don't really know what is the difference for Duration and Hero Duration for such an ability...
    But I did test in the latest version of DotA to make sure. Mass Serpent Ward lasts 40 seconds there.




    Edit Dota 2 proof:

    Code:
    	//=================================================================================================================
    	// Shadow Shaman: Mass Serpent Ward
    	//=================================================================================================================
    	"shadow_shaman_mass_serpent_ward"
    
    	.
    	.
    	.
    
    			"07"
    			{
    				"var_type"				"FIELD_FLOAT"
    				"duration"				"45.0 45.0 45.0"
    			}
    Last edited by ThoAppelsin; 03-25-2013 at 02:48 PM.

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    What I constantly fail to understand is why there are so many inconsistencies between the PD/dota1 IN-GAME descriptions and the actual numbers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keowee View Post
    What I constantly fail to understand is why there are so many inconsistencies between the PD/dota1 IN-GAME descriptions and the actual numbers...
    me too

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    this also needs to be sent to icefrog

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    added to sticky.
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    I want to add that aganim's serpent wards should last 45 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keowee View Post
    What I constantly fail to understand is why there are so many inconsistencies between the PD/dota1 IN-GAME descriptions and the actual numbers...
    Dota 1 tooltips are rather crudely written, there's no form in it, it's not that odd to see incorrect information like that.
    Also, mistakes like these are very easily made.

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    Most mistakes like these are easily corrected, too. Changing the text of a tooltip would take about 5 minutes if a dev was trying to stretch their hours out. I think many dota 2 players like myself are frustrated and confused by the lack of refinement going in to Dota 2. I must say that it's a beautiful and wonderous game, but still, many of these old, old bugs are very, very easy fixes.

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    Supposedly they're working on features behind the scenes (refer to cyborgmatt's blog). There are a fair few refinements that need to be done.

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