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    [Fixed] Certain AoE spells can be seen by enemy players even when on fog

    As the title says sprout and icepath can both be seen even when used at fog (e.g you can notice if the enemy team is going roshan if they use icepath or sprout).
    I don't think this happened back in DotA 1

    Jakiro's icepath in fog


    Prophet's Sprout in fog
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    Alright, as a general note on Are Spells Visible In Fog bugs:
    I have no idea what the rules are for spells effects being visible in fog, but they are definitely weird. Some spells are visible, some are not.

    Try this:
    Spawn Skywrath Mage on the Radiant.
    Level him up, put on -wtf, disable creep spawn
    Hide in the trees between Dire T1 and T2 next to the Roshan Pit (so in the trees as near the Secret Shop as you can get). You should have very little vision since Dire towers don't give you vision.
    Without moving from your location, try firing Mystic Flares randomly within his 1200 casting range. Up cliff, into Pit, Secret Shop, into trees, etc.
    Results: Some of them are visible to you, some are not??? Try this during both Day and Night maybe, I wasn't paying attention. I can't tell what determines spell visibility.
    Expected: Not visible in fog regardless of anything else.

    After that, try this with other pieces of terrain too probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imxtrabored View Post
    Alright, as a general note on Are Spells Visible In Fog bugs:
    I have no idea what the rules are for spells effects being visible in fog, but they are definitely weird. Some spells are visible, some are not.

    Try this:
    Spawn Skywrath Mage on the Radiant.
    Level him up, put on -wtf, disable creep spawn
    Hide in the trees between Dire T1 and T2 next to the Roshan Pit (so in the trees as near the Secret Shop as you can get). You should have very little vision since Dire towers don't give you vision.
    Without moving from your location, try firing Mystic Flares randomly within his 1200 casting range. Up cliff, into Pit, Secret Shop, into trees, etc.
    Results: Some of them are visible to you, some are not??? Try this during both Day and Night maybe, I wasn't paying attention. I can't tell what determines spell visibility.
    Expected: Not visible in fog regardless of anything else.

    After that, try this with other pieces of terrain too probably.
    You are right, i gave it a shot with Jakiro's ice path and it was visible at some places and not visible at others.Even when used in some places of the rosh pit it would still not be visible.I don't know what to think about this.Don't know whether this is a bug or just the way some spells have to be. I think this can only be answered by some Developer or Icefrog himself.

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    added to sticky. more tests would be appreciated though.
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    Noticed this happening with Bristleback's Quill Spray 1-2 weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surf View Post
    Noticed this happening with Bristleback's Quill Spray 1-2 weeks ago.
    Could you be more precise?What exactly did you notice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EbToX View Post
    Could you be more precise?What exactly did you notice?
    The quills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noo View Post
    The quills?
    You mean you saw the quills while they were used in fog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EbToX View Post
    You mean you saw the quills while they were used in fog?
    Not me, him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EbToX View Post
    You mean you saw the quills while they were used in fog?
    Not me, him.

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