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    [C] Axe's Battle Hunger gets cleared off with Hand of Midas transmution

    Axe's Battle Hunger gets cleared off from its target, when the target transmutes a creep with the Hand of Midas it has
    Battle Hunger should persist even after its target transmutes something

    Battle Hunger has to get corrected so, that it disregards transmutions with Hand of Midas

    Hand of Midas has to start taking Dark Ritual as its role model

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    isnt using hands of midas killing a creep ? thats what it takes to take of battle hunger off. or am i wrong somewhere?

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    Okay, think of it like this...

    Battle Hunger wants to see blood

    when Lich Dark Rituals a creep, there is no blood, so it doesn't take off the Battle Hunger from Lich
    when you transmute a creep, there is no blood, nothing red over there, it is all about gold, all about yellow; thus Hand of Midas also shouldn't take off the Battle Hunger, just like Dark Ritual


    These two don't kill the target, they just transform them, Battle Hunger looks for a kill

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    yea makes sense

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    You wouldn't believe, but I shed a single drop of tear here
    thanks for your understanding brother

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    YOUR BACK APPLE !

    Also this probably related to the intended changes list where there is a bunch of insta killing unit skills/ that remove buffs.
    I guess another one to add !



    A related issue with same effect/mechanics is "Blood Bath procs for units transmuted by midas (discussion) added 29.08.2012"
    Last edited by Crowfeather; 07-20-2013 at 11:16 AM.
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    thanks for the welcome

    Nope, it is other way around, that intended fix is related to this
    You don't kill the unit as you use Dark Ritual or Hand of Midas on them, you just transform them into something else

    Thus Bloodbath also shouldn't do what has been called as an intended fix
    Does Bloodseeker kill the creep he uses Hand of Midas on? No, he doesn't, he just transmutes it, transforms it into experience and 190 gold
    No reason for Bloodbath to proc, simply because there isn't blood, simply because there isn't a kill

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    yea makes sense +1

    Crowfeather you can change your sig already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noya View Post
    yea makes sense +1

    Crowfeather you can change your sig already
    I like it how it is though. Now no one will forget the sin that charraider has committed. Valve drone D=

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    thanks for the welcome

    Nope, it is other way around, that intended fix is related to this
    You don't kill the unit as you use Dark Ritual or Hand of Midas on them, you just transform them into something else

    Thus Bloodbath also shouldn't do what has been called as an intended fix
    Does Bloodseeker kill the creep he uses Hand of Midas on? No, he doesn't, he just transmutes it, transforms it into experience and 190 gold
    No reason for Bloodbath to proc
    , simply because there isn't blood, simply because there isn't a kill
    That was my point.

    Your view / this thread should belong in the discussion I guess. (all though it is a valid bug report)

    This is one of those bugs that you get guys going "bbbbbut its better this way its got to be intended. Wc3 limitation obviously made it so you couldn't have this (Wc3 limitations did no such thing) then a massive debate ensues while the devs are to lazy to fix it anyway.

    Also you cannot say "this is related to that" Without "that being related to this", they both stem from the same mechanic and thus should already be covered. Midas is counting units transmuted as killed instead of simply transformed. You provided a good explanation for a previous bug ^^, but into relation to the other noticeable effects caused by this bug.
    Last edited by Crowfeather; 07-20-2013 at 06:50 PM.
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